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→Another definition of liberal -2: the term was hijacked
:::To draw an analogy to American politics, there are very few "liberals", "conservatives" and "libertarians" in America, if we use the complete definition of each of those words. However, there are many people with liberal, conservative and libertarian traits. This isn't to say that everyone is moderate, just that humans are too complex to ever fit a perfect definition. In order to function at all in a discussion of American politics (and the analogical international politics) we have to define the "perfect" value, then discuss if and how an actor deviates. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:12, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
:::To draw an analogy to American politics, there are very few "liberals", "conservatives" and "libertarians" in America, if we use the complete definition of each of those words. However, there are many people with liberal, conservative and libertarian traits. This isn't to say that everyone is moderate, just that humans are too complex to ever fit a perfect definition. In order to function at all in a discussion of American politics (and the analogical international politics) we have to define the "perfect" value, then discuss if and how an actor deviates. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:12, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
::::To recycle what I said years ago, the term "liberal" was hijacked. True liberals, such as Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, and Boris Yeltsin managed to get on with thier lives without dying for a cause or trying to rehabilitate the term. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 17:37, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
==pedophile Peacekeepers and the UN as a "liberal organization"==
==pedophile Peacekeepers and the UN as a "liberal organization"==