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User talk:Jenkins (view source)
Revision as of 03:17, September 25, 2007
, 03:17, September 25, 2007Reverted edits by Conservative (Talk); changed back to last version by Feebasfactor
::Ah, I see... I think... but right now, I'm slightly handicapped in terms of communication, starting even with basic mail (although I should be able to send mails via CP, come to think of it...). And I never used IMs and never had the urge to try it. Right now, I'm mostly a smallscale editor. Maybe I'll get/need it once I get more settled in? --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 16:41, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
::Ah, I see... I think... but right now, I'm slightly handicapped in terms of communication, starting even with basic mail (although I should be able to send mails via CP, come to think of it...). And I never used IMs and never had the urge to try it. Right now, I'm mostly a smallscale editor. Maybe I'll get/need it once I get more settled in? --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 16:41, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
== Protection spree? ==
''(The initial post was removed from [[User:Conservative|Conservative's]] talk page after just six minutes)''
Apologies if this comes over a bit stronger than intended - I only try to help and learn here on CP, but...
*21:44, 24 September 2007 Conservative (Talk | contribs) protected "Internet Infidels" (same reason as atheism [edit=sysop:move=sysop])
*20:50, 24 September 2007 Conservative (Talk | contribs) protected "JP Holding" (same reason as atheism [edit=sysop:move=sysop])
*17:36, 24 September 2007 Conservative (Talk | contribs) protected "Vestigial organs" (same reason as toe [edit=sysop:move=sysop])
*17:18, 22 September 2007 Conservative (Talk | contribs) protected "Brights Movement" (same reason as atheism [edit=sysop:move=sysop])
*20:34, 11 September 2007 Conservative (Talk | contribs) protected "Creation science" (same as theory of evolution [edit=sysop:move=sysop])
*17:31, 5 September 2007 Conservative (Talk | contribs) protected "Atheism" (no more affirmative action for Ungtss's liberalism [edit=sysop:move=sysop])
I didn't bother to check beyond September, but (to be blunt) the concept of collaboration on a wiki is completely lost on you, isn't it? I'm sorry, but you never replied to my question on [[Talk:Brights Movement]] (Can I assume that you don't bother to check the talk pages of articles you "own"?), so I'll ask here.
I couldn't help but notice that you instantly protect most articles you contribute to in a major way (notable exception being Greenleaf, although I still kinda wait for a talk page reply there... Have you moved on from there? Then I might start editing in earnest there...) - is that normal behavior here on CP? I'm new, so the question is genuine. I'm honestly confused - CP's way of doing things is radically different than that of most projects I watched or joined, so I'm not taking anything for granted by now. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 22:01, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
:I have found that often atheists get very aggressive on wikis. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:08, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
::So the answer is to simply protect all articles that have anything to do with atheism (and thus with religion, and thus with creationism, and thus with evolution, which is the other end of the chain)?
::I repeat my question: Is this the CP way of doing things? Blind protection because some evil atheist could get the wild idea to edit? --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 22:16, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
:::(I wanted to ask about this too, and, well, this looks like the place). I can't see that any vandalism has occured on those articles... in fact, for some of them, the almost sole contributor for a while now has been you. Maybe you could give other editors the benefit of the doubt, Conservative? If vandalism or edit wars do occur, then you could justifiably protect the pages again. But to do so pre-emptively just seems rather unnecessaray... and prevents anyone else from contributing, either. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 22:20, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
::::In one case at least ([[Brights Movement]]), the protection came one minute after the initial edit, even. This sort of bunker mentality might appear like cowardice to an outside observer. I'm not saying that it is or that I hold this view, but when "aggressive atheists" are the reason why practically nobody else gets a chance to contribute, one has to ask how afraid we are of these evil people. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 22:41, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
*Jenkins, you should know we have other ways of handling disputes like this! Conservative, please refrain from public displays with editors, please! --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 22:51, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
::<bad Japanese imitation>Hai, hai...</bad Japanese imitation> --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 22:52, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
*? I have reopened most of the articles there is absolutely no indication of vandalism to any of the ones I have reviewed, and another Admin previously found the same thing, and unlocked a couple of them. They will remain open. They have not proven problematic, not even Atheism. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 23:04, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
::Literally (I assume), "Yes, yes...". In this case it was more of a "Ah, okay, gotcha". Regarding your unprotection: I'm sure I won't be the only one, but let me be the first one to say "Thank you!" :) --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 23:08, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
:::I'll second that thanks. And on that note, I'll also get the heck off your talk page already... [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 23:11, 24 September 2007 (EDT)