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Line 182: − ::::Yay for restating his argument as a bizarre absolute! Long live the spirit of American debate! Someone's got a case of ripperitis.[[User:Shocktherapy|Shocktherapy]] 13:02, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
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:::And, in a sense, they are. What if America were overtaken by a terribly oppressive totalitarian government? Most Americans today would not stand for such a thing, and would openly revolt against such a change. To the established totalitarian regime, they are terrorists that threaten national stability, but to the people, they are freedom-fighters trying to restore the glory of a nation. So, if patriotism becomes violent, the way terrorism is, then are the two really distinguishable? [[User:Adam|Adam]] 10:50, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
:::And, in a sense, they are. What if America were overtaken by a terribly oppressive totalitarian government? Most Americans today would not stand for such a thing, and would openly revolt against such a change. To the established totalitarian regime, they are terrorists that threaten national stability, but to the people, they are freedom-fighters trying to restore the glory of a nation. So, if patriotism becomes violent, the way terrorism is, then are the two really distinguishable? [[User:Adam|Adam]] 10:50, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
::::Are you suggesting that, during the [[American Revolution]], soldiers of the [[Continental Army]], or any irregulars supporting the same, murdered innocent women or children? Or--are you saying that you consider America to have ''already been taken over'' by "an oppressive totalitarian government"? Your position makes zero sense.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 14:12, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
::::Are you suggesting that, during the [[American Revolution]], soldiers of the [[Continental Army]], or any irregulars supporting the same, murdered innocent women or children? Or--are you saying that you consider America to have ''already been taken over'' by "an oppressive totalitarian government"? Your position makes zero sense.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 14:12, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
*Adam, terrorism to overthrow an oppressive, totalitarian regime, for the sake of establishing or re-establishing freedom/Democracy, is one thing. Terrorism, conducted in and for the installation of yet another oppressive, totalitarian, ''religious theocracy'', is just terrorism, criminal activity. You cannot attach the appellation "freedom fighter(s)" to religious fanatics who seek neither freedom or religious pluralism. That is a [[logical fallacy]], the same as calling people "suicide bombers" when in point of fact they are [[Homicide Bombers]]. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 14:57, 6 September 2007 (EDT)
*Adam, terrorism to overthrow an oppressive, totalitarian regime, for the sake of establishing or re-establishing freedom/Democracy, is one thing. Terrorism, conducted in and for the installation of yet another oppressive, totalitarian, ''religious theocracy'', is just terrorism, criminal activity. You cannot attach the appellation "freedom fighter(s)" to religious fanatics who seek neither freedom or religious pluralism. That is a [[logical fallacy]], the same as calling people "suicide bombers" when in point of fact they are [[Homicide Bombers]]. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 14:57, 6 September 2007 (EDT)