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→Sept 2007 uprising: Provocation and justifiable force
I am not siding with the government, as several liberals have posted or emailed me privately. I am addressing one issue only: who started what, and is the force used by the various sides justified. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 19:05, 26 September 2007 (EDT)
I am not siding with the government, as several liberals have posted or emailed me privately. I am addressing one issue only: who started what, and is the force used by the various sides justified. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 19:05, 26 September 2007 (EDT)
:You write as though the "liberals" acknowledge that the protesters did try to grab weapons, and that this is not sufficient justification for the police to shoot.
:But the article you linked to did not acknowledge that the protesters did this. It merely reported the claim from the government that this had happened. As such, there was no clear inference, as you claim, that the provocation was not just cause for the police to fire.
:Possibly another factor is that there are reports of soldiers shaving their heads and of the army buying monks robes, the implication being that soldiers would try and infiltrate the monks, allegedly to provide provocation for police action by making it appear that the monks did not remain peaceful. So even if "monks" did try and grab weapons, were they really monks, or soldiers planted in the crowd?
:Who started what, and was the force justified? We are talking about a largely-peaceful protest against an oppressive military dictatorship. A dictatorship that reportedly did shoot into a crowd of peaceful protesters in 1988, killing ''thousands''. You are correct. Perhaps in specific incidents the police were justified. Overall, justice seems to be on the side of the protesters.
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:38, 27 September 2007 (EDT)