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So your definition of "homophobic" is to fear that the gay agenda will undermine society? If so, do you mean to brand this fear as irrational - or simply to say that you disagree with it? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 15:57, 27 September 2007 (EDT)
 
So your definition of "homophobic" is to fear that the gay agenda will undermine society? If so, do you mean to brand this fear as irrational - or simply to say that you disagree with it? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 15:57, 27 September 2007 (EDT)
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:If you meant me: No. I just went with the view that CP apparently pushes (that homophobia is a "snarl word used to tar and feather etc etc etc") to show how homophobia is a possibility, as opposed to heterophobia.
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:The reasoning that the gay agenda will undermine society could certainly lead to genuine homophobia (just like me watching some horror movie about spiders could drive me down the road towards arachnophobia until I'm genuinely afraid even of tiny house spiders). It's the difference between cause and effect. For example, I'd say that people usually don't discriminate against other races just because their skin has a slightly different hue. There is usually some (rational or irrational) cause behind it, no matter whether they acknowledge it or not (the literal -phobia part comes when you develop a fear that doesn't go away, even when the cause is gone or neutralized). So I think that homophobia is more than just some political word and that the current homphobia article is simply pushing an opinion.
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:Man, this stuff's complicated, and I had to revise a lot on the fly. Summary: There are people who are afraid that the "gay agenda" succeeds", and there are people where this concern develops into an irrational fear of everything that is connected to said agenda. I would call the latter group homophobic (although it should be noted that the cause listed here is not the only possible way leading to homophobia, of course). --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 16:13, 27 September 2007 (EDT)
    
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