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:You did forget a number of things, chief among which is that I am under Divine orders, per {{Bible ref|book=Matthew|chap=28|verses=19-20}}, to spread the Truth and oppose error and falsehood wheresoever I find it.

:You did forget a number of things, chief among which is that I am under Divine orders, per {{Bible ref|book=Matthew|chap=28|verses=19-20}}, to spread the Truth and oppose error and falsehood wheresoever I find it.

:About those "algorithms"--a commentator named Jim Manzi mentioned them in an essay published in the current issue of ''National Review''. He states that if those algorithms work at all, then they show that, because evolution is not random after all, one cannot assert ''a priori'' that [[God]] does not direct it. Fine, except for one crucial element that we never even considered: time. Evolution, as you currently define it, takes far more time than the earth has been around.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]^{[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]} 23:29, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

:About those "algorithms"--a commentator named Jim Manzi mentioned them in an essay published in the current issue of ''National Review''. He states that if those algorithms work at all, then they show that, because evolution is not random after all, one cannot assert ''a priori'' that [[God]] does not direct it. Fine, except for one crucial element that we never even considered: time. Evolution, as you currently define it, takes far more time than the earth has been around.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]^{[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]} 23:29, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

::I was telling you all the time that evolution wasn't random. Glad that you finally got it. And if you would have read the literature on the algorithm, you would have noticed that there a faster optimization algorithms around. This observation isn't exactly news. Evolution itself is the process without a director. But you can, as theistic evolutionists and IDers do, claim that a creator at some places stepped in and accelerated the process. But unless you specify where, when and how this creator did it, you still didn't explain anything, but you seek refuge with you creator in some unspecified unknowns. Which is even more vague than hiding in some known unknowns, like abiogenesis. [[User:Order|Order]] 00:21, 2 October 2007 (EDT)

::I was telling you all the time that evolution wasn't random. Glad that you finally got it. And if you would have read the literature on the algorithm, you would have noticed that there a faster optimization algorithms around. This observation isn't exactly news. Evolution itself is the process without a director. But you can, as theistic evolutionists and IDers do, claim that a creator at some places stepped in and accelerated the process. But unless you specify where, when and how this creator did it, you still didn't explain anything, but you seek refuge with your creator in some unspecified unknowns. Which is even more vague than hiding in some known unknowns, like abiogenesis. [[User:Order|Order]] 00:21, 2 October 2007 (EDT)

Terry, hi, new user here.  So you do realize that that argument is circular?

Terry, hi, new user here.  So you do realize that that argument is circular?

#Evolution would disprove special creation.

#Evolution would disprove special creation.