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::::  I've addressed this by expanding the paragraph, with citations.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:32, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
 
::::  I've addressed this by expanding the paragraph, with citations.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:32, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
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:::::Your additions don't really address my questions.  Your additions don't say who these "many people" are (but see below), nor mention any books.  You have not addressed that Drs. Sarfati and Menton totally reject the forgery charge, nor my answer to your question about where they were found.
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:::::You did make reference to a "half dozen leading scientist", but without names, that's not a lot of use.  However, I have tracked down what appears to be your source, the [http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/Encyclopedia/20hist09.htm Creation Evolution Encyclopedia], and it lists R.S. Watkins, N.C. Wickramasinghe, J. Watkins, R. Rabilizirov, and L.M. Spetner along with Hoyle.  Okay, there were six scientists, not just Hoyle (and Wickramasinghe, whom I had been aware of).
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:::::Have you checked the sources that are currently listed as Nos. 4, 5, and 6?  Because the Creation Evolution Encyclopedia does ''not'' list them as supporting the argument.  Instead, it lists them under an "also see" introduction.  These sources clearly have more about the issue, but not necessarily any evidence supportive of the claims of Hoyle et. al.
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:::::So what we have is a forgery claim by a small group of scientists who may or may not still hold that view (Hoyle is now dead), which is refuted not just by other evolutionists but also by creationists, including ones that you cite.  Furthermore, I'm not sure that any of the six were qualified to know what they were talking about (Hoyle was an astronomer, for example), but some of the scientists who reject the hoax (such as anatomist Dr. Menton) are so qualified.
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:::::[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:29, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
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