679
edits
Changes
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
Line 30:
Line 30: − + + + Line 55:
Line 57: − − ==Pointers== − Let me make three pointers to concerned editors & Admins about the army of sockpuppets who will attack this article: − − (1) they will try to define [[McCarthyism]] and the "McCarthy era" as dating from 1948 onwards; − − (2) they will try to define "the Second Red Scare" as dating from 1948 onwards & make it synonymous with McCarthyism. − − (3) they will impugn and slander the sources of information in absence of any valid rebuttal. − − This blatant propagandizing which they view as a high priority should be resisted. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:01, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
no edit summary
::''"if I take a page from the entry here and credit to McCarthy people the HUAC investigated"''
::''"if I take a page from the entry here and credit to McCarthy people the HUAC investigated"''
::Yes, we had these debates ''in extensio'' in Wikipedia. For example, Harry Dexter White who died three days after a HUAC hearing in August of 1948, nevertheless was a "victim of McCarthyism", nevermind the '''fact''' that he was (1) dead and burried when McCarthy waved his list of 57 Communists in February of 1950; (2) was dead and burried when McCarthy held hearings; (3) never testified before any Senate hearing chaired by Joseph McCarthy; (4) Joseph McCarthy never served in the House of Representatives. Now, per Wikipedia's own policy of WP:CITE, WP:NOR, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:AWT, no one ever produced any evidence Harry Dexter White "denied charges before a McCarty era hearing". I burried Mr. White umteen times only to have him resurrected to deny charges before a "McCarthy era hearing". In this instance, I would suggest Conservapedia implement Wikipedia's own policies which Wikipedia steadfastly refused to do. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:46, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
::Yes, we had these debates ''in extensio'' in Wikipedia. For example, Harry Dexter White who died three days after a HUAC hearing in August of 1948, nevertheless was a "victim of McCarthyism", nevermind the '''fact''' that he was (1) dead and burried when McCarthy waved his list of 57 Communists in February of 1950; (2) was dead and burried when McCarthy held hearings; (3) never testified before any Senate hearing chaired by Joseph McCarthy; (4) Joseph McCarthy never served in the House of Representatives. Now, per Wikipedia's own policy of WP:CITE, WP:NOR, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:AWT, no one ever produced any evidence Harry Dexter White "denied charges before a McCarty era hearing". I burried Mr. White umteen times only to have him resurrected to deny charges before a "McCarthy era hearing". In this instance, I would suggest Conservapedia implement Wikipedia's own policies which they steadfastly refused to do. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:46, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
The fact that Harry Dexter White died shortly before McCarthy waved his famous "list" does not make him any less a victim of "McCarthyism" though I would not call him a victim of McCarthy himself. We still use the word "Boycott" to refer to what happened in Montgomery in the 1960s even though Captain Charles Cunningham Boycott had been dead for decades. I've also heard the word "Maverick" used to describe nonconformists who lived and died well before Samuel A. Maverick had his ranch in Texas and nonconformists who lived long after Mr. Maverick himself had died. --[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 16:11, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
==Censure==
==Censure==
Do you consider it a "fact" that believing communists have a right to teach makes you "pro-communist?" --[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 15:38, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
Do you consider it a "fact" that believing communists have a right to teach makes you "pro-communist?" --[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 15:38, 13 March 2007 (EDT)