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*Well this is an American encyclopedia, remember. While we can strive for universality, some things are just going to have meanings intrinsic to the United States.  And one would not be wrong in ''expecting'' our international users to take that into account, instead of their pointing out the obvious to us. We know that some countries are using ambiguous terms that mean the opposite of what they rightfully should. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝoρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 10:58, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
 
*Well this is an American encyclopedia, remember. While we can strive for universality, some things are just going to have meanings intrinsic to the United States.  And one would not be wrong in ''expecting'' our international users to take that into account, instead of their pointing out the obvious to us. We know that some countries are using ambiguous terms that mean the opposite of what they rightfully should. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝoρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 10:58, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
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:::I haven't seen such a blatant example of American pomposity in a long time.  There was no merit in that post whatsoever, unless it was meant as a joke.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:38, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
 
:: I appreciate the comments above, but in an encyclopedia an exception should not prevent a clear, up-front explanation of a concept.  By the way, I am confident that taxpayer-funded schools do censor classroom prayer in all English-speaking countries, as in the United States and England.  I have yet to see evidence to the contrary.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:59, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
 
:: I appreciate the comments above, but in an encyclopedia an exception should not prevent a clear, up-front explanation of a concept.  By the way, I am confident that taxpayer-funded schools do censor classroom prayer in all English-speaking countries, as in the United States and England.  I have yet to see evidence to the contrary.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:59, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
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::::As I mentioned above, some provinces in Canada fund Catholic schools.  See ''Faith-based schools''<ref>Faith-based schools, By Jennifer Wilson, CBCNews.ca, Updated Sept. 17, 2007 [http://www.cbc.ca/ontariovotes2007/features/features-faith.html]</ref> for a good summary of the government-funded Catholic schools in various provinces in Canada.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 19:32, 29 October 2007 (EDT)   
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::::As I mentioned above, some provinces in Canada fund Catholic schools.  See ''Faith-based schools''<ref>Faith-based schools, By Jennifer Wilson, CBCNews.ca, Updated Sept. 17, 2007 [http://www.cbc.ca/ontariovotes2007/features/features-faith.html]</ref> for a good summary of the government-funded Catholic schools in various provinces in Canada.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 19:32, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
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::::I also mentioned that Victorian schools do not ''censor'' classroom prayer, in Religious Education classes at least. In addition, I would be confident that the British "faith schools" (see the article) which are not government-run but are government-funded (at least partly if not totally) have classroom prayer.  Actually, Andy, what do you mean by "taxpayer-funded"?  Totally taxpayer-funded, or partially so?  Almost all Christian schools in Australia do get some funding from government (taxpayer) sources, although they are by no means totally taxpayer-funded.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:38, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
    
:::I think it is possible to write primarily for the American audience (since about 50% of our audience is American) while taking into account other countries and do it in a manner that provides clarity.  For example, in the [[homosexuality]] article I clearly label where things are occuring and while I mention mostly American events I do mention events that have occured overseas. I also have no problem with articles like these:  http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexual_agenda_in_Scotland  Also, I do cite experts in the United States, Britain, Europe, and India.  Lastly, I did create a space for an article entitled "Homosexuality and Islam" and obviously such an article would cover things that are happening in the Middle East and other Muslim countries.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:31, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
 
:::I think it is possible to write primarily for the American audience (since about 50% of our audience is American) while taking into account other countries and do it in a manner that provides clarity.  For example, in the [[homosexuality]] article I clearly label where things are occuring and while I mention mostly American events I do mention events that have occured overseas. I also have no problem with articles like these:  http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexual_agenda_in_Scotland  Also, I do cite experts in the United States, Britain, Europe, and India.  Lastly, I did create a space for an article entitled "Homosexuality and Islam" and obviously such an article would cover things that are happening in the Middle East and other Muslim countries.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:31, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
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