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== Julius or Augustus ==
 
== Julius or Augustus ==
 
Also I feel obliged to correct as an amateur historian, the idea that Julius Caesar was so influential.  He actually was not that big of a deal.  Perhaps he felled the Republic as it was, but its fate was hardly determined, or settled, by his actions.  The work of creating real change from the Republic to the Empire was that of Augustus.  Perhaps Julius started the process, but the real work was my personal hero, Augustus.-'''Speak[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:SpeakerOfTheDead er]''' 00:35, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
 
Also I feel obliged to correct as an amateur historian, the idea that Julius Caesar was so influential.  He actually was not that big of a deal.  Perhaps he felled the Republic as it was, but its fate was hardly determined, or settled, by his actions.  The work of creating real change from the Republic to the Empire was that of Augustus.  Perhaps Julius started the process, but the real work was my personal hero, Augustus.-'''Speak[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:SpeakerOfTheDead er]''' 00:35, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
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==Thomas Jefferson==
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yeah.... Jefferson was the second president of the US.... just saying  =/  [[User:ObiBinks|ObiBinks]] 23:18, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
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