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Line 9: + + + + + − − Actually - Andy, thanks for making me look over it another time. I changed the label from most wanted to "Short Pages" and then noticed something. Schultz multiplied by 3 - and gave himself 303 points. In reality - assuming he thought the pages were most wanted - he should have multiplied by 7. However, given your objections, I merely changed it to 4 - since the number of points per short new entry is 4 - which still gave him more points than before. I'm leaving it up to him whether to change it to seven or not though - but regardless, we wind up better either way - so thanks!--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 19:58, 12 November 2007 (EST)
Conservapedia talk:Team Supply Siders (view source)
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==Introductories==
Very...erm...interesting page! :P --[[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 15:06, 12 November 2007 (EST)
Very...erm...interesting page! :P --[[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 15:06, 12 November 2007 (EST)
:Haha, yeah, it's temporary - but since the contest had started - and since the other team had a page, I just thought I'd do a quick 2 minute one and then someone else could fancy it up later --<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 16:38, 12 November 2007 (EST)
:Haha, yeah, it's temporary - but since the contest had started - and since the other team had a page, I just thought I'd do a quick 2 minute one and then someone else could fancy it up later --<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 16:38, 12 November 2007 (EST)
==Short "Most Wanted" Page Entries==
:How did SSchultz do 101 "most wanted" entries, for a total of 303 points, when the total number of 'most wanted" entries is less than two-dozen the total at the beginning of the contest?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:53, 12 November 2007 (EST)
:How did SSchultz do 101 "most wanted" entries, for a total of 303 points, when the total number of 'most wanted" entries is less than two-dozen the total at the beginning of the contest?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:53, 12 November 2007 (EST)
::Hmm, good question. I mean, the only way to figure out if the entries are legit is to go through them and see how many pages have 5 or more pages that link to them - but from a quick check I think all of them are accurate - though feel free to check more thoroughly.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 18:57, 12 November 2007 (EST)
::Hmm, good question. I mean, the only way to figure out if the entries are legit is to go through them and see how many pages have 5 or more pages that link to them - but from a quick check I think all of them are accurate - though feel free to check more thoroughly.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 18:57, 12 November 2007 (EST)
::: It's bogus. Consider this a formal challenge to SSchultz's point tallies.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 12 November 2007 (EST)
::: It's bogus. Consider this a formal challenge to SSchultz's point tallies.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 12 November 2007 (EST)
::::I think I see how it happened ... the template that I presume SSchultz created linked to all of those articles, so by putting the template on only 5 pages - then each of those 5 pages would link to every other article on the template - thus putting them on the most wanted list. Hmmm ... --<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 19:08, 12 November 2007 (EST)
::::I think I see how it happened ... the template that I presume SSchultz created linked to all of those articles, so by putting the template on only 5 pages - then each of those 5 pages would link to every other article on the template - thus putting them on the most wanted list. Hmmm ... --<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 19:08, 12 November 2007 (EST)
:::::I just saw a user decided not to add the multiplier as "most wanted" pages to those pages created by SSchultz, and made most wanted only by his template. I think that's a good outcome. Otherwise, I would see the "most wanted" multiplier of inviting bootstrapping - you know, create a "most wanted" page just to cure it - and I think that leads to the opposite outcome that the contest creator intended.-[[User:MexMax|MexMax]] 20:04, 12 November 2007 (EST)
==Copying Pages==
Hello all, I also wanted to raise another controversial issue. Andy has said - and I respect this conclusion - that the goal of the contest should be to encourage results, to improve the encyclopedia, rather than effort. However, I'd like to add another way of looking at this issue. I believe that defining "results" as just "pages created" ignores the quality and distinctiveness aspect of Conservapedia. The reason I came to this site is because it's so unique; where else will you see content written by conservatives for conservatives, like this? I'm of the mind that our rules, accordingly, should encourage original creation of content far-and-away above copied content. Please don't construe this conclusion as "sour grapes" due to SSchultz's commanding lead, either - I'm about to do a copy/paste run myself :-).-[[User:MexMax|MexMax]] 20:04, 12 November 2007 (EST)
:Actually - Andy, thanks for making me look over it another time. I changed the label from most wanted to "Short Pages" and then noticed something. Schultz multiplied by 3 - and gave himself 303 points. In reality - assuming he thought the pages were most wanted - he should have multiplied by 7. However, given your objections, I merely changed it to 4 - since the number of points per short new entry is 4 - which still gave him more points than before. I'm leaving it up to him whether to change it to seven or not though - but regardless, we wind up better either way - so thanks!--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 19:58, 12 November 2007 (EST)
==Hidden Pages==
*What is "bogus" is creating a hidden space for one team, and not the other. What is indeed bogus is giving night editing to members of your team who didn't have it, but refusing to grant the same courtesy to the other team when it was requested, and even though every Sysop here would be patrolling their every move. And it is indeed bogus to make such challenges when the person making the challenges allowed the entire ships registry of the United States Navy to be copied to CP, even though those articles are of dubious benefit to this encyclopedia, and forced others to spend countless hours adding the needed links and categories to them, after the previous contest ended. Please don't be posting publicly as you have done, before contacting the person and asking for an explanation privately. It shows a lack of respect for others. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 19:29, 12 November 2007 (EST)
*What is "bogus" is creating a hidden space for one team, and not the other. What is indeed bogus is giving night editing to members of your team who didn't have it, but refusing to grant the same courtesy to the other team when it was requested, and even though every Sysop here would be patrolling their every move. And it is indeed bogus to make such challenges when the person making the challenges allowed the entire ships registry of the United States Navy to be copied to CP, even though those articles are of dubious benefit to this encyclopedia, and forced others to spend countless hours adding the needed links and categories to them, after the previous contest ended. Please don't be posting publicly as you have done, before contacting the person and asking for an explanation privately. It shows a lack of respect for others. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 19:29, 12 November 2007 (EST)