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Talk:Suppression of alternatives to evolution (view source)
Revision as of 14:54, November 15, 2007
, 14:54, November 15, 2007My, what compassion and sense of justice you have! Not!
::If there are thousands of scientists who accept creation science and/or ID, then once again, how can there be suppression? Are they being thrown in jails? I suppose that your claim is that they are being fired or prevented to publish or ridiculed by other scientist. Boo-hoo!! How many evolutionary scientist are on the staff of the Creation Research Society or have jobs at Bob Jones University or are invited to write for the Journal of Creation? None. There is no conspiracy and claims of there being one are just a way to support a weak idea. [[User:Mfa1957|Mfa1957]] 09:24, 15 November 2007 (EST)
::If there are thousands of scientists who accept creation science and/or ID, then once again, how can there be suppression? Are they being thrown in jails? I suppose that your claim is that they are being fired or prevented to publish or ridiculed by other scientist. Boo-hoo!! How many evolutionary scientist are on the staff of the Creation Research Society or have jobs at Bob Jones University or are invited to write for the Journal of Creation? None. There is no conspiracy and claims of there being one are just a way to support a weak idea. [[User:Mfa1957|Mfa1957]] 09:24, 15 November 2007 (EST)
::: Many of those thousands of scientists who accept creation and/or ID keep very quiet about it, because they are in fear of losing their jobs.
::: I made no claims of conspiracies, and in [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Theory_of_Evolution&diff=336370&oldid=336291 this post] explained why I reject that I'm claiming conspiracies.
::: Expecting evolutionists to be on the staff of explicitly-creationist organisations is not a valid comparison to creationists being on staff at supposedly-impartial, and in many cases government-run, institutions.
::: Of course, your assertion that it is "weak idea" is nothing more than an unsubstantiated throw-away line.
::: That you don't seem to care about widespread suppression of an idea and the careers that are being destroyed in the process says heaps about your senses of compassion and justice.
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:54, 15 November 2007 (EST)
:Philip, I think it should be noted that it was the information provided by James Hutton on his theories of geology and geologic time that cause most of the transition from creationism views to non-creationism views. While Darwin caused an uproar by hypothesizing the development of life, it was Hutton that caused science to doubt the claims of the bible based on the timescale in the bible. Before Hutton no one questioned the age of the earth according to the claims of the bible because there was no reason to. Hutton showed his evidence to the Royal Society of Edinburgh in 1788. Darwin was not born until 1809 and did not present his TOE until 1859, seventy one years after Hutton. By this time many of the scientists in the Europe were no longer what you would consider creationists due to Hutton's influential works.
:Philip, I think it should be noted that it was the information provided by James Hutton on his theories of geology and geologic time that cause most of the transition from creationism views to non-creationism views. While Darwin caused an uproar by hypothesizing the development of life, it was Hutton that caused science to doubt the claims of the bible based on the timescale in the bible. Before Hutton no one questioned the age of the earth according to the claims of the bible because there was no reason to. Hutton showed his evidence to the Royal Society of Edinburgh in 1788. Darwin was not born until 1809 and did not present his TOE until 1859, seventy one years after Hutton. By this time many of the scientists in the Europe were no longer what you would consider creationists due to Hutton's influential works.