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I am an atheist.  If there are no gods then there can be no absolute right and wrong.  Without gods where could absolute values come from?  If there are no absolute rights and wrongs there can be no morality because morality (in my view) cannot be a relative concept.  What use is morality if mine can be fundamentally different to yours and neither is superior?  That is not what I understand morality to mean.  In the end, if one is an atheist, the best you can do is to put it down to a matter of taste.  Isn't that all that's left?  It is not to my taste to torture babies for fun (and I hope it's not to your taste either).  I can think that my taste is better than yours but I can't prove it.  Religious people regard that as a totally unsatisfactory state of affairs and they may be right.  But that is not an argument for the existence of gods.  Maybe the universe is just unsatisfactory in some ways.  --[[User:Horace|Horace]] 19:47, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

I am an atheist.  If there are no gods then there can be no absolute right and wrong.  Without gods where could absolute values come from?  If there are no absolute rights and wrongs there can be no morality because morality (in my view) cannot be a relative concept.  What use is morality if mine can be fundamentally different to yours and neither is superior?  That is not what I understand morality to mean.  In the end, if one is an atheist, the best you can do is to put it down to a matter of taste.  Isn't that all that's left?  It is not to my taste to torture babies for fun (and I hope it's not to your taste either).  I can think that my taste is better than yours but I can't prove it.  Religious people regard that as a totally unsatisfactory state of affairs and they may be right.  But that is not an argument for the existence of gods.  Maybe the universe is just unsatisfactory in some ways.  --[[User:Horace|Horace]] 19:47, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

== Yes and No ==

== Yes and No ==

The question is whether it is possible to live without a moral ''code''.  Absolutely.  On the other hand there is the question of whether it is possible to live without ''morality''.  I would say no.  There are serial killers and people who do many evil things, but not living morally is different from living without morality.  People cannot necessarily explain their morality; people may claim they have no morality; they may even believe it: that does not mean they are right. --[[User:Andy|Andy]] 12:30, 17 November 2007 (EST)

The question is whether it is possible to live without a moral ''code''.  Absolutely.  On the other hand there is the question of whether it is possible to live without ''morality''.  I would say no.  There are serial killers and people who do many evil things, but not living morally is different from living without morality.  People cannot necessarily explain their morality; people may claim they have no morality; they may even believe it: that does not mean they are right. --[[User:Andy|Andy]] 12:30, 17 November 2007 (EST)