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I like to always keep an open mind on this issue, so I don't wish to shy away from these issues. I will try to expand my readings of more diverse sources on the issue in the future. I don't like to promote my old earth views out of fear that I may damage another's faith - when talking about reasons to believe, I prefer to talk about historical verification of the faith because anyone who claims that Jesus did not rise from the dead has a lot of explaining to do when looking at the history. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 00:15, 24 November 2007 (EST)
 
I like to always keep an open mind on this issue, so I don't wish to shy away from these issues. I will try to expand my readings of more diverse sources on the issue in the future. I don't like to promote my old earth views out of fear that I may damage another's faith - when talking about reasons to believe, I prefer to talk about historical verification of the faith because anyone who claims that Jesus did not rise from the dead has a lot of explaining to do when looking at the history. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 00:15, 24 November 2007 (EST)
 
:Perhaps if we just specify more precisely - rather than saying that atheist support it (which, in fairness to both Dan and TK - does kind of imply that Christians don't support it) - we could say, Atheist and non-Young-Earth Christians support it? I mean, that's obviously a completely true statement - and that way we can make sure not to offend anyone - so really it's a win-win.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 00:26, 24 November 2007 (EST)
 
:Perhaps if we just specify more precisely - rather than saying that atheist support it (which, in fairness to both Dan and TK - does kind of imply that Christians don't support it) - we could say, Atheist and non-Young-Earth Christians support it? I mean, that's obviously a completely true statement - and that way we can make sure not to offend anyone - so really it's a win-win.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 00:26, 24 November 2007 (EST)
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In reply to Dan, please realize that [[Jesus]] and His sacrifice make no sense unless there was one [[Adam]] and his original sin.  The Catholic Church has prohibited teaching anything to the contrary about man's origins. 
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But, as I said, I reject an old earth based on logic and science.  The arguments for an old earth have logical flaws and much [[deceit]], while arguments against it are compelling.  But watch how old earth believers are pulled away from discussing it with an open mind, as I was until I overcame that when I was 40 years old.
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Unfortunately, I have to sign off soon tonight but will be back online tomorrow morning.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:29, 24 November 2007 (EST)
    
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