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One of the scriptural reasons I accept it as local is Genesis 8:3, where the Bible says that the flood waters receded. If the flood was worldwide, where would the waters have receded to? Also, when God used a wind to help recede the waters in Genesis 8:1, a wind would not have had as much of a tempering effect if the water covered the entire earth. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 14:33, 24 November 2007 (EST)
 
One of the scriptural reasons I accept it as local is Genesis 8:3, where the Bible says that the flood waters receded. If the flood was worldwide, where would the waters have receded to? Also, when God used a wind to help recede the waters in Genesis 8:1, a wind would not have had as much of a tempering effect if the water covered the entire earth. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 14:33, 24 November 2007 (EST)
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: 30,000 BC is too long ago, as human population would have grown to much larger than what it was by the time of [[Christ]].  But adherence to an old earth would inevitably cause older and older times for everything.  All the geneology in the [[Bible]] is completely false if the flood was 30,000 BC, and we should have discovered writings older than 3000 BC if the flood was 30,000 BC.  Yet no writings or civilizations have been discovered older than the biblical estimated date for the flood.
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: In response to your question above abou the Catholic Church, Peter was the first [[Pope]] and founder of the [[Catholic Church]].  He said in 2 Peter 2:4, with the full power of infallibility:
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:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 '''and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly'''; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— 9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries, 11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.
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--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:38, 24 November 2007 (EST)
    
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