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| | ::Me again... Just to be still more offtopic (ironic, seeing what I wrote below: "This article is about the moon"). I feel that many Churches, wishing to differentiate from the Catholic Church, purposedly avoid to use Catholic material. "Read the Bible by yourself" seems to be a common stance, which I appreciate and understand. But, in my opinion, all Catholic knowledge shouldn't be rejected. Instead, it should be studied, used, and argued against if necessary. Catholics and other Churches are on the same boat in this increasingly atheist and possibly satanic world. I very much appreciate Mr. Schlafly, who is not Catholic (is he?), but still uses the words of the first Pope and of the Catholic Church to strengthen his points. And this is the last from me for now ;-) [[User:Leopeo|Leopeo]] 07:32, 6 December 2007 (EST) | | ::Me again... Just to be still more offtopic (ironic, seeing what I wrote below: "This article is about the moon"). I feel that many Churches, wishing to differentiate from the Catholic Church, purposedly avoid to use Catholic material. "Read the Bible by yourself" seems to be a common stance, which I appreciate and understand. But, in my opinion, all Catholic knowledge shouldn't be rejected. Instead, it should be studied, used, and argued against if necessary. Catholics and other Churches are on the same boat in this increasingly atheist and possibly satanic world. I very much appreciate Mr. Schlafly, who is not Catholic (is he?), but still uses the words of the first Pope and of the Catholic Church to strengthen his points. And this is the last from me for now ;-) [[User:Leopeo|Leopeo]] 07:32, 6 December 2007 (EST) |
| | + | :::: All fair points, and thank you. I apologise for not properly understanding what you were getting at. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:02, 6 December 2007 (EST) |
| | :::I don't want to drag you into this discussions, but I have the impression that my alleged position is confused with my actual position. I'll briefly summarize two of my positons, but there is no need to react. I don't blame anybody if he mistook my positions, because this a somewhat confusing discussion. | | :::I don't want to drag you into this discussions, but I have the impression that my alleged position is confused with my actual position. I'll briefly summarize two of my positons, but there is no need to react. I don't blame anybody if he mistook my positions, because this a somewhat confusing discussion. |
| | :::*First, when I talked about Humani Generis I summarized said that the Catholic Chruch allows Catholics to develop their own opinion on evolution, as long as they believe in a single Adam, and that souls are god given. I think that this is a fair characterization of the Catholic position. | | :::*First, when I talked about Humani Generis I summarized said that the Catholic Chruch allows Catholics to develop their own opinion on evolution, as long as they believe in a single Adam, and that souls are god given. I think that this is a fair characterization of the Catholic position. |
| | :::*Second, I am still not trying to convince Philip that his position is wrong. I try to convince him and others that people who disagree with him might be factually wrong, but that they aren't therefore morally wrong. I believe that most of them mean well, even if you disagree with them. | | :::*Second, I am still not trying to convince Philip that his position is wrong. I try to convince him and others that people who disagree with him might be factually wrong, but that they aren't therefore morally wrong. I believe that most of them mean well, even if you disagree with them. |
| | :::[[User:Order|Order]] 08:07, 6 December 2007 (EST) | | :::[[User:Order|Order]] 08:07, 6 December 2007 (EST) |
| | + | :::: If you weren't tyring to convince me that my position was wrong, you wouldn't be disagreeing with so much that I say. You may not be trying to convince me that I'm wrong about 6-day creation, but you are trying to convince me that I'm wrong about 6-day creation being the only correct biblical view to have. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:02, 6 December 2007 (EST) |
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| | ==Tides and the earth-moon distance== | | ==Tides and the earth-moon distance== |