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:: Assuming that you reading of fraud is correct ("meant wronging of person in property rights by dishonest methods or schemes"), The sections that apply to defrauding are #4 and #6.  #4 goes to state " knowingly and with intent to defraud, accesses a protected computer without authorization ...  and by means of such conduct furthers the intended fraud and obtains anything of value, unless the object of the fraud and the thing obtained consists only of the use of the computer and the value of such use is not more than $5,000 in any 1-year period;"  As the value of the vandalism is not conceivably more than $5,000 this fails.  #6 is about trafficking in passwords "knowingly and with intent to defraud traffics (as defined in section 1029) in any password or similar information through which a computer may be accessed without authorization".  In most of the definitions the "without authorization" bit comes up - participation in the wiki is authorizing the person to make edits. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 19:24, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
 
:: Assuming that you reading of fraud is correct ("meant wronging of person in property rights by dishonest methods or schemes"), The sections that apply to defrauding are #4 and #6.  #4 goes to state " knowingly and with intent to defraud, accesses a protected computer without authorization ...  and by means of such conduct furthers the intended fraud and obtains anything of value, unless the object of the fraud and the thing obtained consists only of the use of the computer and the value of such use is not more than $5,000 in any 1-year period;"  As the value of the vandalism is not conceivably more than $5,000 this fails.  #6 is about trafficking in passwords "knowingly and with intent to defraud traffics (as defined in section 1029) in any password or similar information through which a computer may be accessed without authorization".  In most of the definitions the "without authorization" bit comes up - participation in the wiki is authorizing the person to make edits. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 19:24, 13 March 2007 (EDT)
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::: I'm with Mtur on this one.  Accessing a protected computer means hacking in or using someone elses logon info (same sorta thing).  And the important part of the statute is obtaining anything of value, simply by editting information, which this website was created for, does not cause anyone to lose money.  As I mentioned in my post on the talk page of [[18 USC § 1470]] I'd consult a criminal lawyer before making sweeping threats of legal action. [[User:Jrssr5|Jrssr5]] 11:10, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
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::: I'm with Mtur on this one.  Accessing a protected computer means         in or using someone elses logon info (same sorta thing).  And the important part of the statute is obtaining anything of value, simply by editting information, which this website was created for, does not cause anyone to lose money.  As I mentioned in my post on the talk p      [[   USC § 1470]] I'd consult a criminal lawyer before making sweeping threats of legal action. [[User:Jrssr5|Jrssr5]] 11:10, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
    
This is laughable - you guys actually think anyone will take you seriously about those vandalism charges...but I guess you take yourself so seriously you started another version of wikipedia that is doomed to fail / be run by right wing loonies anyway.
 
This is laughable - you guys actually think anyone will take you seriously about those vandalism charges...but I guess you take yourself so seriously you started another version of wikipedia that is doomed to fail / be run by right wing loonies anyway.
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While you are right in saying that some will vandalize pages regardless of any threats of prosecutions, you are wrong in saying ''no one'' will take these threats seriously.  If we follow through with our new rule, I am positive that vandalism and obscenity will decrease significantly.  Obviously, you underestimate this site.  --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 12:37, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
    
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