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Why should I tell you the name of a city that wasn't name, if you already tell me that you will discount any such name with the argument that " a later editor did update some place names."
Why should I tell you the name of a city that wasn't name, if you already tell me that you will discount any such name with the argument that " a later editor did update some place names."
Your theory about the ghostwriters is very nice theory, but it doesn't even come close to be a scientific theory, since you got neither proof, nor evidence, and certainly no eyewitness accounts. [[User:Order|Order]] 21:02, 15 December 2007 (EST)
Your theory about the ghostwriters is very nice theory, but it doesn't even come close to be a scientific theory, since you got neither proof, nor evidence, and certainly no eyewitness accounts. [[User:Order|Order]] 21:02, 15 December 2007 (EST)
: I had never indicated that the colophon could only be translated one way, and I had at least implied that there is more than one valid view. My point was always that there is some evidence (even if not conclusive) that all of Genesis (apart from chapter 1) could have been written by human eyewitnesses, and that any claim that it was was not recorded by eyewitnesses because the events predated Moses was an invalid argument.
: Why is the onus on me to prove that he changed his style? The claim has always been that Moses was responsible for the first five books, and surely if someone want to claim otherwise, the onus on them is to show that he didn't change his style, especially given your acknowledgement that an author could do this.
: I didn't say that I ''would'' discount any such city name as a later editorial update. I merely pointed out that this might be a possible explanation. I also notice that you didn't dispute that this might be possible. If you are acknowledging that this is possible, it follows that city names unknown in Moses' time cannot therefore be used as evidence that it must have been written later than Moses' time.
: Your last comment about ghostwriters seems to reject my argument by requiring a standard that could not be met by any theory, and begs the question by declaring that there were no eyewitness accounts, the very point in contention.
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:29, 16 December 2007 (EST)
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