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== Problems ==
 
== Problems ==
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Some [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationary]] geologists use the nomenclature of the system whilst not accepting the uniformitarian dates attached to the system which places the age of the earth as being billions of years old.<ref>"Creationists use the same naming system, although do not accept the uniformitarian belief that the geologic column represents eons of time", Batten, Don, quoted in Sarfati, Jonathan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2280 More nonsense from Professor Plimer]</ref><ref>Morris, 1973.</ref><ref>http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=54</ref><ref>http://www.allaboutcreation.org/geologic-time-scale.htm</ref> Other young earth creationists assert that geological column does not exist and cite secular scientists who state the argumentation advocating the geological column involves circular reasoning. <ref>http://www.trueorigin.org/geocolumn.asp</ref><ref>http://iwhome.com/spiritualquest/tracts/dp-geol-.htm</ref>  Young earth creationist scientists use a geological system that more heavily relies on [[Catastrophism|catastrophism]] and reject the uniformitarian assumptions behind the dates derived by secular geologists, and thus reject these dates. In addition, [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationist]] scientists point out that catastrophism is increasingly being accepted in the field of geology. <ref>http://www.grisda.org/origins/12061.htm</ref><ref>http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=print&ID=84</ref>  These scientists believe that the earth is young and has multiple lines of evidence from the field of geology showing that the earth is young. <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/geology.asp</ref><ref>http://www.creationism.org/topbar/geology.htm</ref><ref>http://www.grisda.org/georpts/gr11.htm</ref><ref>http://www.nwcreation.net/geologylinks.html</ref><ref>http://globalflood.org/</ref>   
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Some [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationary]] geologists use the nomenclature of the system whilst not accepting the uniformitarian dates attached to the system which places the age of the earth as being billions of years old.<ref>"Creationists use the same naming system, although do not accept the uniformitarian belief that the geologic column represents eons of time", Batten, Don, quoted in Sarfati, Jonathan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2280 More nonsense from Professor Plimer]</ref><ref>Morris, 1973.</ref><ref>http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=54</ref> <ref>http://www.allaboutcreation.org/geologic-time-scale.htm</ref> Other young earth creationists assert that geological column does not exist and cite secular scientists who state the argumentation advocating the geological column involves circular reasoning. <ref>http://www.trueorigin.org/geocolumn.asp</ref> <ref>http://iwhome.com/spiritualquest/tracts/dp-geol-.htm</ref>  Young earth creationist scientists use a geological system that more heavily relies on [[Catastrophism|catastrophism]] and reject the uniformitarian assumptions behind the dates derived by secular geologists, and thus reject these dates. In addition, [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationist]] scientists point out that catastrophism is increasingly being accepted in the field of geology. <ref>http://www.grisda.org/origins/12061.htm</ref><ref>http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=print&ID=84</ref>  These scientists believe that the earth is young and has multiple lines of evidence from the field of geology showing that the earth is young. <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/geology.asp</ref> <ref>http://www.creationism.org/topbar/geology.htm</ref> <ref>http://www.grisda.org/georpts/gr11.htm</ref> <ref>http://www.nwcreation.net/geologylinks.html</ref> <ref>http://globalflood.org/</ref>   
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[[Image:Roth-01.gif|right|thumb|400px|The arrows point to [[paraconformity|paraconformities]] at the [[Grand Canyon]].]]
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[[Image:Roth-01.gif|right|thumb|400px|The arrows point to paraconformities at the [[Grand Canyon]].]]
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[[William R. Corliss]] is a respected cataloger of scientific [[anomaly|anomalies]] and the science journal ''[[New Scientist]]'' had an article which focused on Mr. Corliss's career as a cataloger of scientific anomalies. <ref>Adrian Hope, ''Finding a Home for Stray Fact'', New Scientist, July 14, 1977, p. 83</ref>  In addition, Mr. Corliss wrote 13 books for the [[National Aeronautics and Space Administration]] (NASA) and has also written several works for the [[National Science Foundation]] (NSF) and the [[Atomic Energy Commission]] (AEC).<ref>http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/16.3_corliss.pdf</ref>  Mr. Corliss has cataloged scores of [[Anomaly|anomalies]] which challenge the old earth geology [[paradigm]].<ref>http://www.science-frontiers.com/sourcebk.htm</ref><ref>http://www.apologeticspress.net/articles/184</ref> Corliss wrote regarding [[Paraconformity|paraconformities]] the following:
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[[William R. Corliss]] wrote the following about [[paraconformity|paraconformities]]:
 
{{cquote|"Potentially more important to geological thinking are those [[unconformity|unconformities]] that signal large chunks of geological history are missing, even though the strata on either side of the unconformity are perfectly parallel and show no evidence of erosion. Did millions of years fly by with no discernible effect? A possible though controversial inference is that our geological clocks and stratigraphic concepts need working on." William R. Corliss, Unknown Earth (Glen Arm, Maryland: The Sourcebook Project, 1980), p. 219.<ref>http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/flood.html</ref>}}
 
{{cquote|"Potentially more important to geological thinking are those [[unconformity|unconformities]] that signal large chunks of geological history are missing, even though the strata on either side of the unconformity are perfectly parallel and show no evidence of erosion. Did millions of years fly by with no discernible effect? A possible though controversial inference is that our geological clocks and stratigraphic concepts need working on." William R. Corliss, Unknown Earth (Glen Arm, Maryland: The Sourcebook Project, 1980), p. 219.<ref>http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/flood.html</ref>}}
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[[Ariel R. Roth]] wrote regarding paraconformities the following:
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[[Ariel R. Roth]] wrote:
 
{{cquote|Paraconformities challenge the geologic timescale. The lack of evidence of time at the surface of the underlying layers of a paraconformity, especially the lack of erosion, suggest that the long ages never occurred.<ref>http://www.grisda.org/georpts/36.pdf</ref>}}
 
{{cquote|Paraconformities challenge the geologic timescale. The lack of evidence of time at the surface of the underlying layers of a paraconformity, especially the lack of erosion, suggest that the long ages never occurred.<ref>http://www.grisda.org/georpts/36.pdf</ref>}}
    
Young earth creationist assert that paraconformities pose a serious challenge to the old earth uniformitarian geology [[paradigm]].<ref>http://www.grisda.org/georpts/36.pdf</ref><ref>http://www.grisda.org/2003-FSC-open/Roth-RecentCreation.htm</ref><ref>http://www.seeking-god.co.uk/id188.htm</ref>
 
Young earth creationist assert that paraconformities pose a serious challenge to the old earth uniformitarian geology [[paradigm]].<ref>http://www.grisda.org/georpts/36.pdf</ref><ref>http://www.grisda.org/2003-FSC-open/Roth-RecentCreation.htm</ref><ref>http://www.seeking-god.co.uk/id188.htm</ref>
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== The system ==
 
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