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:::::Dude, there's a book called "The Bible", and around these parts it's undeniably true.  You don't have to say "Christians believe..." because this site has the Bible as an authoritative source.  If you can't accept the Bible as a given truth, then you're not going to do well here at all. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 23:13, 18 December 2007 (EST)
 
:::::Dude, there's a book called "The Bible", and around these parts it's undeniably true.  You don't have to say "Christians believe..." because this site has the Bible as an authoritative source.  If you can't accept the Bible as a given truth, then you're not going to do well here at all. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 23:13, 18 December 2007 (EST)
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::::::Unless you can provide absolute, conclusive proof that the Bible is true, then stating anything as fact that only has the Bible as a source is opinion, not fact.  The Bible MAY be true, it may not be, I don't know - and neither do you.  You may fervently believe it's true, but, unless you have verifiable evidence of this, that is only your belief and opinion, not fact.  [[User:Zmidponk|Zmidponk]] 23:27, 18 December 2007 (EST)
    
:::::Also, you're pushing an agenda.  That science trumps the truth in the Bible. And you're attempting to push that believe on the viewers and contributors of this site. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 23:20, 18 December 2007 (EST)
 
:::::Also, you're pushing an agenda.  That science trumps the truth in the Bible. And you're attempting to push that believe on the viewers and contributors of this site. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 23:20, 18 December 2007 (EST)
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::::::No, this site is pushing an agenda - that the Bible is true and unquestionable, and dressing that up as 'conservatism'.  It's not.  It's fundamentalist Christianity.  I'm merely pointing out that this is the case.  [[User:Zmidponk|Zmidponk]] 23:27, 18 December 2007 (EST)
    
==When liberals spend time refuting an idea ... it's already a success==
 
==When liberals spend time refuting an idea ... it's already a success==
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