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Talk:Problem of Evil (view source)
Revision as of 22:05, December 29, 2007
, 22:05, December 29, 2007I agree with Learn together
::Yes this is an oft cited consideration. and while I think there is something to it, the Judeao-Christian God is still omniscient/omnipotent which raises the question of why He opted for a creation in which His creatures would be permitted to disobey Him when it was evidently His option that they be unable to. [[User:Qwestor|Qwestor]] 10:30, 29 December 2007 (EST)
::Yes this is an oft cited consideration. and while I think there is something to it, the Judeao-Christian God is still omniscient/omnipotent which raises the question of why He opted for a creation in which His creatures would be permitted to disobey Him when it was evidently His option that they be unable to. [[User:Qwestor|Qwestor]] 10:30, 29 December 2007 (EST)
::: I think Learn together is essentially correct, that evil is the absence of good/God (not just "good"), although this is perhaps by definition rather than anything else, meaning that evil is ''defined as'' the absence of God, rather than "nasty, horrible things".
::: The meal analogy as presented is not a good one, I don't think. We need to eat to live, so a meal is therefore "good", and the absence of the meal is "bad", because without it we will starve. So although there are still plenty of problems with the analogy (such as how fasting and gluttony fit into the analogy), it still does illustrate the basic principle. We don't need "bad" things (such as poisons) to kill us. A lack of "good" things (meals) is sufficient.
::: As for Qwestor's point, my understanding is that if He didn't allow his creation (specifically ''man'') to disobey Him, he would have been creating robots, not beings capable of showing love by being able to ''choose'' whether to love Him or not. Also, if one doesn't experience evil, one won't appreciate good. We wouldn't appreciate how good God is without understanding how bad things are without God.
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 17:05, 29 December 2007 (EST)