The others seem fair enough, but the SFGate reference directly attributes the phrase to Pipes. [[User:Reasonableperson|Reasonableperson]] 16:28, 22 January 2008 (EST) | The others seem fair enough, but the SFGate reference directly attributes the phrase to Pipes. [[User:Reasonableperson|Reasonableperson]] 16:28, 22 January 2008 (EST) |