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== Citation for "murder" ==
Since asking for a citation on the page is a bannable offense, I'll ask for it here. Can we have a source conclusively showing that abortion is in fact murder, the crime of unlawfully taking a human's life with prior intent? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 01:35, 24 January 2008 (EST)
Since asking for a citation on the page is a bannable offense, I'll ask for it here. Can we have a source conclusively showing that abortion is in fact murder, the crime of unlawfully taking a human's life with prior intent? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 01:35, 24 January 2008 (EST)
: I'm not sure what you would define as "conclusively showing".
: Also, despite the link to [[murder]] and that article defining it as ''unlawful'' killing, "murder" can also be defined as the taking of an ''innocent'' human life (as distinct from, for example, executing a criminal). By that definition, it doesn't have to be shown that abortion is illegal to classify it as murder.
: In any case, in some places abortion is illegal, so that would make it murder even by the "unlawfal killing" definition.
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 04:35, 24 January 2008 (EST)