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:I guess I will weigh in here, Europe was not destroyed because of Charles Martel victory in southern France The Battle of Tours 732 AD (before the 1st crusade) and the defeat (almost destruction) of the Ottoman Empire's army at the gates of Vienna 1529 (300 years after the last Crusade) and the successful defense at Malta 1292 AD (the year after the last Crusade). None of these events were concerned with the Crusades.  The sacking of Constanstiople advanced the movement of Islam by weakening a power bulwarking Europe.  Europe did advance in technology by exposure to the middle east as it was the more advanced of the two areas in some ways.  I am saying that this looks to be more of socio/ethic/religious broad movements to me rather than the Crusades per say.
 
:I guess I will weigh in here, Europe was not destroyed because of Charles Martel victory in southern France The Battle of Tours 732 AD (before the 1st crusade) and the defeat (almost destruction) of the Ottoman Empire's army at the gates of Vienna 1529 (300 years after the last Crusade) and the successful defense at Malta 1292 AD (the year after the last Crusade). None of these events were concerned with the Crusades.  The sacking of Constanstiople advanced the movement of Islam by weakening a power bulwarking Europe.  Europe did advance in technology by exposure to the middle east as it was the more advanced of the two areas in some ways.  I am saying that this looks to be more of socio/ethic/religious broad movements to me rather than the Crusades per say.
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Question for above statement- How did the Crusades expose Western Europe to science and technology? From what I remember, the Rennaisance really started to kick in around the late 1300's and early 1400's, the same time that Greek-Orthodox scientists, scholars, and artists were fleeing the Turkish onslought.
    
Out of curiosity, why do you call Muslims "Mohammedans"?  We don't call Americans "Washingtonans" or Jewish people "Abrahamans".  I'm not saying the term "Mohammedan" is necessarily incorrect.  It used to be the popular term for Muslims in the West.  But why do you think it is appropriate?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:38, 24 February 2007 (EST)
 
Out of curiosity, why do you call Muslims "Mohammedans"?  We don't call Americans "Washingtonans" or Jewish people "Abrahamans".  I'm not saying the term "Mohammedan" is necessarily incorrect.  It used to be the popular term for Muslims in the West.  But why do you think it is appropriate?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:38, 24 February 2007 (EST)
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