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::::: Not hilarious at all. It's a fact. Did you read the link? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:38, 1 February 2008 (EST)
::::: Not hilarious at all. It's a fact. Did you read the link? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:38, 1 February 2008 (EST)
::::::The link only offers opinion, educated opinion maybe, but still opinion, not fact. Sure, many scientific institutions had their roots in monasteries, order, and religious institutions, but science did often better when it was freed from oversight by the church, such as the free cities in Italy show, or the more secular Netherlands.[[User:Order|Order]] 08:16, 2 February 2008 (EST)
::::::The link only offers opinion, educated opinion maybe, but still opinion, not fact. Sure, many scientific institutions had their roots in monasteries, order, and religious institutions, but science did often better when it was freed from oversight by the church, such as the free cities in Italy show, or the more secular Netherlands.[[User:Order|Order]] 08:16, 2 February 2008 (EST)
::On Wikipedia, this would be a violation of their [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Point|POINT] guideline. I really, really do not think you want to go down that road here. You're already treading on thin ice as it is. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 12:50, 2 February 2008 (EST)