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It's patently unfair to call bias when it's very easy to swing the bias of Wikipedia more towards center ''by editing it your bloody self.'' [[User:Illuminatedwax|Illuminatedwax]] 16:35, 2 January 2008 (EST)
 
It's patently unfair to call bias when it's very easy to swing the bias of Wikipedia more towards center ''by editing it your bloody self.'' [[User:Illuminatedwax|Illuminatedwax]] 16:35, 2 January 2008 (EST)
 
: As far as your last sentence is concerned, I've already tried that, and it doesn't work, at least not on issues for which there is a group of editors (and sysops) determined to keep the status quo.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:08, 2 January 2008 (EST)
 
: As far as your last sentence is concerned, I've already tried that, and it doesn't work, at least not on issues for which there is a group of editors (and sysops) determined to keep the status quo.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:08, 2 January 2008 (EST)
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:Puhleeze. Wikipedia not only won't tolerate opinions contrary to the admins' biases in discussions, it won't let relevant facts they don't like remain in articles. [[User:Perlster|Perlster]] 17:57, 5 February 2008 (EST)
    
== The last point ==
 
== The last point ==
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