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:::: Thanks, Iduan, but I think we need "crime or sin" in the first sentence, both to avoid [[placement bias]] and because it may not universally be true that it is a crime.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:20, 18 February 2008 (EST)
:::: Thanks, Iduan, but I think we need "crime or sin" in the first sentence, both to avoid [[placement bias]] and because it may not universally be true that it is a crime.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:20, 18 February 2008 (EST)
:::::Ok no problem, although I might rephrase the first two sentences if that's ok with you - I'll leave the first sentence as is, but I'll try to combine the second sentence better so it doesn't seem as redundant.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 14:22, 18 February 2008 (EST)