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Debate:Atheism vs. Pastafarianism (view source)
Revision as of 17:35, February 22, 2008
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:: "''Please show me proof that [Darwin] lied.''": I have no obligation to do so. First, I never claimed that he lied, so that alone is sufficient reason why I don't have to show proof. Second, you accused me of lying simply because I repeated a claim made by prominent evolutionists that, according to you, contradicted what Darwin said. That doesn't make me a liar, and neither does it make those evolutionists liars. They may have simply been mistaken. Or perhaps you are. I was merely pointing out that you were very ready to accuse me of lying, yet didn't appear to have even considered the ''possibility'' that Darwin lied.
:: "''Please show me proof that [Darwin] lied.''": I have no obligation to do so. First, I never claimed that he lied, so that alone is sufficient reason why I don't have to show proof. Second, you accused me of lying simply because I repeated a claim made by prominent evolutionists that, according to you, contradicted what Darwin said. That doesn't make me a liar, and neither does it make those evolutionists liars. They may have simply been mistaken. Or perhaps you are. I was merely pointing out that you were very ready to accuse me of lying, yet didn't appear to have even considered the ''possibility'' that Darwin lied.
:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:53, 13 February 2008 (EST)
:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:53, 13 February 2008 (EST)
:Any form of science that goes by the scientific method and is unanimously accepted as fact by scientific consensus should be taught in public schools. It doesn’t matter whether or not it is consistent with the Bible, ‘’The Picture of Dorian Gray’’ or ‘’Daniel Deronda’’.
:You didn’t prove me a thing. You provided me a list of scientists with no evidence of their collaboration and expertise on the subject at hand. It is you that is dead wrong. You clearly do not understand the meaning of unanimous, especially in scientific consensus.
:Obviously since you haven’t provided a source that proves intelligent design as a fact, that must mean that you cannot find one, which leads me to the conclusion that there is no evidence of intelligent design being based on the scientific method. Feel free to show me a source. I’m waiting.
:Your previous source didn’t prove a thing. Your previous source gave a list of scientists with no verifiability of collaboration, study, or expertise on the subject. I, however have provided a source in this favour with respect to evolution.
:Yes, creationists do claim it to be a scientific account if they claim it to be scientifically accurate. It is the same thing! That’s like saying that World War II didn’t begin in Europe but world War II started in Europe.
:Yet, do you even realise that among this scientific study, there is no doubt among these collaborating biologists that evolution has occurred? Read it. That was the survey among those scientists who have studied and collaborated within the subject thoroughly, not some scientists that cannot verify an expertise, collaboration, consensus, or even experimentation on the subject.
:In the case that the “four corners” are a metaphor, then the whole Bible must be a metaphor. You cannot refute that either. It just shows that the crackpots that wrote the Bible truly believed that the Earth was flat.
:I have proved you wrong so you are just making yourself less credible by saying “rubbish” because you are much too weak to disprove the argument. Well, it is not rubbish. The Flat Earth Society was founded by fundamentalists just like you who take the Bible too literally and label whatever they don’t want to follow as “metaphors”. Just like you! You are just another of those small groups of fundies that uses the very odd Biblical reference that Earth was created based on the story of Genesis. Unfortunately, your doubts cannot be sustained because the Flat Earth Society is still active and they truly believe in that Biblical rubbish just like you.
:The Bible calls the moon a light. The moon is not a light, simple! The Bible is wrong which is something it has a reputation of.
:Yes, the founders of the Flat Earth Society were very fundamentalist and they didn’t doubt a single word of the Bible. What makes you think that the creation account was any more literal than Revelation?
:Yes, you have an obligation to do so. You did claim he lied. Now you’ve just lied again. Now please show me which evolutionists contradicted what Darwin said. Despite the fact that you jumped to the conclusion of the fact that Darwin lied while giving so evidence for his dishonesty, you refuse to doubt the authenticity of a very scientifically inaccurate book. I smell a double-standard. [[User:Staffordshire|Staffordshire]] 12:35, 22 February 2008 (EST)