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I thought I made it very clear in the first paragraph - "The term seems to be used to suggest or claim that people have deliberately taken quotes out of context" - that ''deliberately'' is clearly an element of the charge.  I actually think it's "deliberately or negligently" - at least that's how the actual case law discusses it - so I've changed it.  The issue with quote mining is that it's a slang term for something with a longer name - "negligent misuse of authority."  Should I include that?-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 23:33, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 
I thought I made it very clear in the first paragraph - "The term seems to be used to suggest or claim that people have deliberately taken quotes out of context" - that ''deliberately'' is clearly an element of the charge.  I actually think it's "deliberately or negligently" - at least that's how the actual case law discusses it - so I've changed it.  The issue with quote mining is that it's a slang term for something with a longer name - "negligent misuse of authority."  Should I include that?-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 23:33, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 
:I just clarified this point.-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 23:34, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 
:I just clarified this point.-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 23:34, 3 March 2008 (EST)
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:: Okay, I accept that the distinction of it being deliberate or not is something I omitted to discuss above.  I'm still not convinced, however, that "''deliberately'' taking a quote out of context" is all that is usually meant by those that use the term, and you've offered no evidence that your understanding is the correct one.
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:: I accept that ''deliberately'' taking a quote out of context is different to "ordinary" quoting out of context, but how is ''negligently'' taking a quote out of context different to "ordinary" quoting out of context?  Surely if one is quoting out of context, one is doing so either ''deliberately'' or ''negligently''?  Or are you using the word "negligent" in a legal sense that may be narrower than the everyday use of the word?
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:: I still think that the legal examples are unnecessary in this article, but perhaps we'll settle other points first.
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:: You said in an [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Quote_mining&diff=prev&oldid=398280 edit comment] that you will discuss your reversion of my edit.  Please do.
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:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:04, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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