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:::: I'm not talking constitutionally.  How does it "send a message of exclusion"?  The very fact that a predominantly ''Christian'' environment welcomes Jews indicates that they are ''not'' excluded! [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:08, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
:::: I'm not talking constitutionally.  How does it "send a message of exclusion"?  The very fact that a predominantly ''Christian'' environment welcomes Jews indicates that they are ''not'' excluded! [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:08, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
:::::"Welcome!  Glad you're here!  Now sit there, okay good, and listen while you tell you about our religion.  No no, we'd rather not hear about yours."-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 00:13, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
:::::"Welcome!  Glad you're here!  Now sit there, okay good, and listen while you tell you about our religion.  No no, we'd rather not hear about yours."-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 00:13, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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:::::: So now we've switched from ''praying'' to ''talking about'' a religion?  I must have missed that switch.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:20, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
Let's say you lived in northern new jersey in a mostly jewish town.  If the teacher wanted to say the Shema before every class, which is a prayer which basically repudiated Christianity, what would you suggest for your kid?[[User:LeonardH|LeonardH]] 23:50, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 
Let's say you lived in northern new jersey in a mostly jewish town.  If the teacher wanted to say the Shema before every class, which is a prayer which basically repudiated Christianity, what would you suggest for your kid?[[User:LeonardH|LeonardH]] 23:50, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 
: To witness to his fellow students.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:08, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
: To witness to his fellow students.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:08, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
::So school should become a free-for-all, religion-off, where students are encouraged to disrupt each other's learning by pushing their beliefs at each other in an unmediated environment?-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 00:13, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
::So school should become a free-for-all, religion-off, where students are encouraged to disrupt each other's learning by pushing their beliefs at each other in an unmediated environment?-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 00:13, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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::: Please show me where in my comment I said anything about witnessing ''during class time'', ''in a disruptive way'', or by ''pushing'' their beliefs on others.  Or retract the comment.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:20, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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