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→Another point: On it being deliberate.
I'm not trying to imply that quote mining is done by creationists. I'm merely trying to clarify the term. I just want to make sure you know that this isn't a political issue for me; it's simply unethical use of authority. No matter who does it, it's wrong (and I haven't read the books TOA cites, so I don't know if creationists do it). Further, I was a recent quote mining victim. Representing a client, our opponent's appellate brief used an ellipsis to hide a "not." So it went something like "it is settled law that party Y can... do activity Z." The real quote from the case was "it is settled law that party Y can '''''not''''' do activity Z." I was stunned.-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 00:34, 4 March 2008 (EST)
I'm not trying to imply that quote mining is done by creationists. I'm merely trying to clarify the term. I just want to make sure you know that this isn't a political issue for me; it's simply unethical use of authority. No matter who does it, it's wrong (and I haven't read the books TOA cites, so I don't know if creationists do it). Further, I was a recent quote mining victim. Representing a client, our opponent's appellate brief used an ellipsis to hide a "not." So it went something like "it is settled law that party Y can... do activity Z." The real quote from the case was "it is settled law that party Y can '''''not''''' do activity Z." I was stunned.-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 00:34, 4 March 2008 (EST)
:I'd be stunned too. I actually thought that your example in the article was rather contrived, as nobody would quote out of context so blatantly. Very few if any of the quotes used by creationists are claimed to be as blatant as that, and in most cases it's very hard to show that quoting out of context was deliberate. That's one of the issues that I have with claims such as those of TalkOrigins. Their "showpiece" example of Darwin talking about the evolution of the eye ''has'' been taken out of context in the past by creationists, but creationists acknowledge this and don't use it any more, and point out that the "context" in this case is remote from the quote so it was quite easy to ''inadvertently'' take it out of context. Yet anti-creationists like to beat creationists over the head with it, and include it in quote mining lists, claiming it to be ''deliberate''.
: But weren't you going to bed? :-)
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:42, 4 March 2008 (EST)