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: Yes, Metcalfe, that is what [[atheists]] ''say'', but then they censor classroom prayer.  Hence the logical contradiction.  You have gone further than most atheists on this issue, but you have still not allowed real classroom prayer in public school: a prayer to start my writing class, for example, which we say every week.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:44, 4 March 2008 (EST)
 
: Yes, Metcalfe, that is what [[atheists]] ''say'', but then they censor classroom prayer.  Hence the logical contradiction.  You have gone further than most atheists on this issue, but you have still not allowed real classroom prayer in public school: a prayer to start my writing class, for example, which we say every week.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:44, 4 March 2008 (EST)
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As I stated above, I think the laws in the US take it too far. My opnion is different from yours, as yours are to mine. I dont think prayer should be raised in the classroom, thats what I think however I dont think it matters if the class agrees to pray or a coach joins his team in prayer before the big match. In my high school (jeez, how many years ago now!) there was prayer in assembly and a group of christians formed a club that used to meet at lunchtimes for bible study etc. There are many other avenues for prayer and religion, like I have stated above and, if there are these avenues, then it need not be brought into English lessons for example. But, I understand that in the US you dont have these avenues. That is my opinion and I believe it is fair to all in the multicultural society of NZ. But again, I know it is different for you in the US.
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