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Talk:Dungeons and Dragons (view source)
Revision as of 11:45, March 12, 2008
, 11:45, March 12, 2008long comment from Uncle Ed
:One of the great themes that Tolkien used in regards to Bilbo is the regrets Bilbo comes to face because of his adventures. He sees the sorrow and suffering of his friends and family caused by ill-considered adventures. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 16:16, 7 March 2008 (EST)
:One of the great themes that Tolkien used in regards to Bilbo is the regrets Bilbo comes to face because of his adventures. He sees the sorrow and suffering of his friends and family caused by ill-considered adventures. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 16:16, 7 March 2008 (EST)
::I read the book a half dozen times. I don't recall Bilbo regretting the "burglary" of the Arkenstone. Nor did he express any regret over taking the coins from the trolls; he and Gandalf split them on the return journey to the Shire.
::The only ethical comment Bilbo made was his comment that the treasure had '''previously''' been stolen (by the trolls and the dragon) and the report that he gave nearly all of it away. In fact, he gave away the single most valuable treasure, worth "the entire price of the Shire", to Frodo.
::There's also the matter of the Ring itself. We can truly say that ''The Hobbit'' and ''The Lord of the Rings'' are books to help young people wrestle with ethical issues. Of course, the correct choices are made for them in these books.
::D&D, however, ''is a "game of pretend" whereby players pretend to take certain actions and the DM adjudicates the results of those actions. By it's very nature, this leaves players open to experiment with various moral quandaries and social dilemmas. This is a valuable tool for players to learn the implications and results of playing both good and evil characters.''
::I don't see how playing the game teaches any "valuable" moral lesson from the "implications" of role-playing. The article simply makes this assertion.
::Thus I suggest that the POV that the game provides moral value be attributed to an adherent of that view, rather than being stated as fact. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 07:45, 12 March 2008 (EDT)
==For your consideration==
==For your consideration==