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::I think if you want to argue that the game revolves around a false perception of free will, you probably need to change DMs. A good DM adjudicates what is possible within the rules ("physics") and describes the world and anything that is not a PC. So just as gravity tells you that you can't jump 100 feet into the air, the DM tells you that you need to make a jump check to try and jump 100 feet into the air (and then he will tell you that you have failed). The DM should ''not'' be telling you what you can and cannot do, though a really good DM might suggest that you do otherwise, for the safety of your character. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:46, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
 
::I think if you want to argue that the game revolves around a false perception of free will, you probably need to change DMs. A good DM adjudicates what is possible within the rules ("physics") and describes the world and anything that is not a PC. So just as gravity tells you that you can't jump 100 feet into the air, the DM tells you that you need to make a jump check to try and jump 100 feet into the air (and then he will tell you that you have failed). The DM should ''not'' be telling you what you can and cannot do, though a really good DM might suggest that you do otherwise, for the safety of your character. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:46, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
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:::I have become convinced that Jinxmchue's goal is to describe the conservative position in the most preposterous terms so as to better ridicule conservatives by posing as a conservative.  If this is Andy Kauffman style humor, I applaud it even as I tire of it. On the other hand, if this is a sincere attempt to undermine conservative values and Conservapedia, then I forewarn you that such efforts are futile. [[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 14:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
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:::I have become convinced that Jinxmchue's goal is to describe the conservative position in the most preposterous terms so as to better ridicule conservatives by posing as a conservative.  If this is Andy Kauffman style humor, I applaud it even as I tire of it. On the other hand, if this is a sincere attempt to undermine conservative values and Conservapedia, then I forewarn you that such efforts are futile. [[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 14:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
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::::I don't know.  I would hate to accuse someone who may have sincere beliefs of trolling.  But I do know that if he hasn't been involved in the fantasy role playing world, that it will be difficult to understand, especially because of the great variation involved.  Are there bad games?  Of course, but there are good ones too. The question is do the rules themselves lead one to a destructive path?  At least in the earlier versions that I am accustomed to, I would say no. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:33, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
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