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| − | Let's be honest people. Suicide is not against the law in the VAST majority of countries in the world. This encyclopedia is supposed to report the TRUTH. Saying that suicide is a "crime" is simply dishonest, unless the Consevapedia is aimed mainly at the people of Syria and Turkmenistan. But of course it isn't; the vast majority of readers and editors of Conservapedia are American (just look at the logo [deleted by admin]). It is irrelevant whether suicide OUGHT to be illegal, fact is that it is legal in the United States and most other countries, and this FACT should not be distorted. | + | Let's be honest people. Suicide is not against the law in the VAST majority of countries in the world. This encyclopedia is supposed to report the TRUTH. Saying that suicide is a "crime" is simply dishonest, unless the Consevapedia is aimed mainly at the people of Syria and Turkmenistan. But of course it isn't; the vast majority of readers and editors of Conservapedia are American (just look at the logo). It is irrelevant whether suicide OUGHT to be illegal, fact is that it is legal in the United States and most other countries, and this FACT should not be distorted. |
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| | I have nothing agaist phrases such as "sucide ''was'' a crime" or "suicide is immoral", but saying that "suicide is a crime" is a lie, plain and simple. At least according to Conservapedias ''own'' definition of [[crime]] [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]] 20:51, 22 March 2008 (EDT) | | I have nothing agaist phrases such as "sucide ''was'' a crime" or "suicide is immoral", but saying that "suicide is a crime" is a lie, plain and simple. At least according to Conservapedias ''own'' definition of [[crime]] [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]] 20:51, 22 March 2008 (EDT) |
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| | : If you acknowledge that it ''is'' a crime in some countries, how is is "dishonest" to call it a crime? Misleading, perhaps, but not dishonest, and not a lie. Changing it to "was a crime" when it still is in some places ''would'' be dishonest. And your comment about the American-ness of Conservapedia, although accurate, is unconvincing to this Aussie. Can you supply some evidence that it "is not against the law in the VAST majority of countries in the world". If so, I might add that into a footnote in order that the statement is clearer. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:36, 23 March 2008 (EDT) | | : If you acknowledge that it ''is'' a crime in some countries, how is is "dishonest" to call it a crime? Misleading, perhaps, but not dishonest, and not a lie. Changing it to "was a crime" when it still is in some places ''would'' be dishonest. And your comment about the American-ness of Conservapedia, although accurate, is unconvincing to this Aussie. Can you supply some evidence that it "is not against the law in the VAST majority of countries in the world". If so, I might add that into a footnote in order that the statement is clearer. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:36, 23 March 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | :: It would be just as dishonest to call [[Soccer|Women's Soccer]] a crime just becuase it's illegal in [[Iran]] and a handful of other obscure countries. Failing to mention the whole truth is also a form of lying. [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]] 08:10, 25 March 2008 (EDT) |
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| | : By the way, [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]], you need a remedial lesson in not taking God's name in vain. (I meant to post this last night, but I got caught by the night-time editing restrictions.) Fortunately, an admin cleared that up for you, but I'd suggest following the First Commandment around here. --[[User:Elkman|Elkman]] 11:34, 23 March 2008 (EDT) | | : By the way, [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]], you need a remedial lesson in not taking God's name in vain. (I meant to post this last night, but I got caught by the night-time editing restrictions.) Fortunately, an admin cleared that up for you, but I'd suggest following the First Commandment around here. --[[User:Elkman|Elkman]] 11:34, 23 March 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | ::What are you on about? The [[Conservapedia:Commandments|First Commandment]] states "Everything you post must be true and verifiable. Do not copy from Wikipedia or elsewhere unless it was your original work." It mentions nothing about using the expression "for Christ's sake". Neither do any of the other commandments. In fact, I could not find a rule in Conservapedia that forbids this. Besides, "for Christ's sake" is just a figure of speech in this context, and altough it has a Christian origin I did not use it in a religious context here, so i don't see why it's offensive to you. [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]] 08:10, 25 March 2008 (EDT) |