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| | *deterrence of crime by self-defense (this can be seen both in person and as a whole) | | *deterrence of crime by self-defense (this can be seen both in person and as a whole) |
| | [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:59, 24 March 2008 (EDT) | | [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:59, 24 March 2008 (EDT) |
| − | | + | --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:19, 29 March 2008 (EDT) |
| | + | :: The intent and meaning of each of those points is obvious, don't you think?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:19, 29 March 2008 (EDT) |
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| | I am deleting the line at the bottom of this article. It is a bit silly. They wouldn't be able to interact (and know about) the outside world. Being deaf this person couldn't learn to speak. As he is blind, he couldn't learn sign language. Because he has no sense of touch, he couldn't even learn sign language like Helen Keller, or learn through a bizarre smell or taste related system. Funnily enough, this person wouldn't know about God (no communication). He might be visited by God in his mind, but we couldn't know that (no communication, and brain scans wouldn't tell us is God is in his mind, only something is going on). Of course there is the unlikely chance that a sign from God (a clear one) would let us know that our disabled friend knew about the outside world.--[[User:Phillipps|Phillipps]] 11:17, 29 March 2008 (EDT) | | I am deleting the line at the bottom of this article. It is a bit silly. They wouldn't be able to interact (and know about) the outside world. Being deaf this person couldn't learn to speak. As he is blind, he couldn't learn sign language. Because he has no sense of touch, he couldn't even learn sign language like Helen Keller, or learn through a bizarre smell or taste related system. Funnily enough, this person wouldn't know about God (no communication). He might be visited by God in his mind, but we couldn't know that (no communication, and brain scans wouldn't tell us is God is in his mind, only something is going on). Of course there is the unlikely chance that a sign from God (a clear one) would let us know that our disabled friend knew about the outside world.--[[User:Phillipps|Phillipps]] 11:17, 29 March 2008 (EDT) |
| | :Sorry, I forgot to add my other point. Are encyclopedias supposed to give hypothetical situations?--[[User:Phillipps|Phillipps]] 11:32, 29 March 2008 (EDT) | | :Sorry, I forgot to add my other point. Are encyclopedias supposed to give hypothetical situations?--[[User:Phillipps|Phillipps]] 11:32, 29 March 2008 (EDT) |
| | ::Not as a general rule, no. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:10, 29 March 2008 (EDT) | | ::Not as a general rule, no. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:10, 29 March 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | ::: Hypotheticals can be effective in explaining a concept.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:19, 29 March 2008 (EDT) |
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| | It seems to me this article is confusing two different kinds of unseen things. One sort, like Newtonian action at a distance and migration patterns, is invisible, but can be tested and proven by experiment. The other, like "Evil" and "ideas", can't, and has to be taken on faith. --[[User:Gulik5|Gulik5]] 13:00, 29 March 2008 (EDT) | | It seems to me this article is confusing two different kinds of unseen things. One sort, like Newtonian action at a distance and migration patterns, is invisible, but can be tested and proven by experiment. The other, like "Evil" and "ideas", can't, and has to be taken on faith. --[[User:Gulik5|Gulik5]] 13:00, 29 March 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | :: No, you seem to miss the point. An unseen action-at-a-distance cannot be proven and in fact is denied by many materialists.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:19, 29 March 2008 (EDT) |