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I would like to improve and edit this article but I don't have energy for an edit war. If I have to write this much on the talk page before a single edit is made, then you have an idea of what I'm talking about.  [[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 07:14, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
 
I would like to improve and edit this article but I don't have energy for an edit war. If I have to write this much on the talk page before a single edit is made, then you have an idea of what I'm talking about.  [[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 07:14, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
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:One of the good things about discussion pages is that is reveals the assumptions of article contributors. To collaborate, we need to identify our [[common ground]] as well as our areas of disagreement. When we agree, it's easy to help each other write an article, but when we disagree it is often hard to "agree to disagree"; see [[Conservapedia:Collaborative writing]].
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:Right at the top of your comments, you referred to the problem of [[Adam's navel]]:
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:*Did Adam have a belly-button? After all, he was never in the [[womb]] and thus never had a [[placenta]]
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:Adam's navel (like [[Schroedinger's cat]]) is one of those things which are brought up to make us think. So let's consider this. Were [[Adam and Eve]] created as adults? Or as brand new people with no experience or memory but with adult bodies? Could they have been created as teenagers, or toddlers, or even as infants?
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:If Adam and Eve were created as anything other than mature adults, then whose job was it to take care of them? If they were infants or children, who got their food? Who kept them from dangers like drowning or falling off of cliffs? Did angels do this, or what?
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:I'm not looking for specific answers here and now, so don't worry ;-)
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:I'm only trying to illustrate the point that [[Geology]] relates to [[Theology]]. The issue of young earth vs. old earth is a valid and important one. I'm not sure this article should have full coverage of the dispute, but we could take a page out of Wikipedia's book and do what they '''say''' they do, even if they are not consistent when push comes to shove.
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:Let's describe this issue where it best belongs, where readers will be happiest to see it. I suggest something like [[Creation Science]], because in 1988 when I first became interested in the [[Origins debate]] that was the term (or [[Scientific Creationism]]).
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:Now, I'm hoping that nothing in what I wrote above shows any "prejudice regarding the issue". I want to be completely open-minded and even-handed in my writing, because I love Philip as a brother but I also respect you, dear sir. And I'm thinking about our readers. For every 1 person who comments, probably 10 or 50 people '''read''' these discussions and ponder them. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
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