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Point of order (and Comment part II)
: "''All this and the radio-carbon dating article just popped in my head---an article which is mostly poppycock.''": Yeah? How about pointing out what's (supposedly) wrong instead of making meaningless hand-waving statements like that?
: "''All this and the radio-carbon dating article just popped in my head---an article which is mostly poppycock.''": Yeah? How about pointing out what's (supposedly) wrong instead of making meaningless hand-waving statements like that?
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:16, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:16, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
== Point of order (and Comment part II) ==
Point of order: Everwill, while I've already stated (if not here then elsewhere) that I agree with the standard viewpoint, however saying that the majority agrees with something therefore it is true is an [[ad populum]] (proof by numbers) logical fallacy. This is ''fallacious'' reasoning, and does not prove your argument.
Comment part II: I still am not sure I understand the distinction between what you (or Philip) ''believe'' and what should be allowed in this article. In other words, why try to convince Philip he is wrong, when it has no bearing on what will be put in the article (this is, afterall, an article talk page)? YEC views are put into articles on Conservapedia, and it sounds to me like you are arguing that it is wrong and should not be allowed into the article. Like I said before, unless I missed something in my cursory overview, this is a well-written article. You might think that YEC is wrong, but that's ok! All YEC views are properly attributed to those who believe them, and they aren't being stated as fact. If the article said "the earth is 6,000 years old", I could rightly see why you would object, but the article says "YECs believe that the earth is 6,000 years old", which is true and verifiable.
So in conclusion, if the article needs work, fix it! If the field of YEC needs work, this isn't really a great forum to try and change that. Perhaps a debate page? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:32, 3 April 2008 (EDT)