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Talk:Jehovah's Witnesses Beliefs (view source)
Revision as of 18:42, April 7, 2008
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::::I am still concerned with the way the article reads. For instance, there is no mention that the coming of Christ in 1914 was only declared to be an invisible coming in retrospect. The earlier dates that did not come to pass are also not mentioned. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 03:30, 8 March 2008 (EST)
::::I am still concerned with the way the article reads. For instance, there is no mention that the coming of Christ in 1914 was only declared to be an invisible coming in retrospect. The earlier dates that did not come to pass are also not mentioned. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 03:30, 8 March 2008 (EST)
:::::Did some more digging into Russell's writings specifically re: 1914 and Christ's invisble return and found that Russell specified both before 1914. At one time Russell had been convinced by a mentor that Christ's presence began in 1874 but he ultimately rejected the chronology on which that belief rested. Watchtowers in 1879 and 1880 identified 1914 as a significant year based on chronology that identified the start of the Gentile Times Jesus referred to at Luke 21:24 with the removal of Zedekiah from kingship. Regarding Christ's presence, Russell wrote a pamphlet called "The Object and Manner of Our Lord’s Return" and said "that, at His coming and for a time after He has come, He will remain invisible; afterward manifesting or showing Himself injudgments and various forms, so that “ every eye shall see Him." (p. 24). In doing my research I've run across acknowledgements that their expectations don't always jibe with what happens, but they tend to mark that up to wrong expectations and not with whether or not something happened. For instance, many thought they would go to heaven in 1914. The fact they didn't go to heaven didn't dissuade them from believing Christ returned in 1914. [[User:BibleBrown|BibleBrown]] 14:42, 7 April 2008 (EDT)
==Beliefs summary==
==Beliefs summary==
I am a litte concerned about the unencyclopedic nature of this section. There are a lot of statements with biblical verse references given as support. Does this mean that JWs only believe in these sections and not others? Or do they believe in the Bible in its entirety? In which case what distinguishes them from other Evangelicals? I think it should be edited drastically. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 04:30, 8 March 2008 (EST)
I am a litte concerned about the unencyclopedic nature of this section. There are a lot of statements with biblical verse references given as support. Does this mean that JWs only believe in these sections and not others? Or do they believe in the Bible in its entirety? In which case what distinguishes them from other Evangelicals? I think it should be edited drastically. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 04:30, 8 March 2008 (EST)
:This section was originally a placeholder as I did research and could be revised or removed. My understanding is that these are central beliefs of JWs but not necessarily the entire scope of their theology. If included in an encyclopedia the section would most likely appear as a sidebar. [[User:BibleBrown|BibleBrown]] 14:42, 7 April 2008 (EDT)