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Talk:Intelligent design controversy (view source)
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If you are well verse in these matters, you may want to collaborate with me on such articles as [[Philosophy of science]] and [[Scientific method]]. Or at least [[Falsifiability]]. For example, name a kind of experiment or observation or discovery that could possibly "falsify" evolution. If you can't - indeed, if no one can - than we'd have to classify [[evolution]] as [[pseudoscience]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 12:10, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
If you are well verse in these matters, you may want to collaborate with me on such articles as [[Philosophy of science]] and [[Scientific method]]. Or at least [[Falsifiability]]. For example, name a kind of experiment or observation or discovery that could possibly "falsify" evolution. If you can't - indeed, if no one can - than we'd have to classify [[evolution]] as [[pseudoscience]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 12:10, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
::Experiment to falsify the currently-accepted model of evolution: Dig up a fossil of a ''Tyrannosaurus Rex'' that died from choking to death on a ''Homo Sapiens''. There. Any other area with blatantly anachronistic fossils (such as modern birds mixed in with Trilobites, flowers in the Silurian age, etc.) would do the trick as well. Conversely, you could also disprove evolution with that old Creationist canard, a cat 'evolving' into a rabbit in one generation. So would verifiable proof of Lamarckian evolution--the inheritance of acquired traits.
::{{cquote|Evolution has been the basis of many predictions. For example:
* Darwin predicted, based on homologies with African apes, that human ancestors arose in Africa. That prediction has been supported by fossil and genetic evidence (Ingman et al. 2000).
* Theory predicted that organisms in heterogeneous and rapidly changing environments should have higher mutation rates. This has been found in the case of bacteria infecting the lungs of chronic cystic fibrosis patients (Oliver et al. 2000).
* Predator-prey dynamics are altered in predictable ways by evolution of the prey (Yoshida et al. 2003).
* Ernst Mayr predicted in 1954 that speciation should be accompanied with faster genetic evolution. A phylogenetic analysis has supported this prediction (Webster et al. 2003).
* Several authors predicted characteristics of the ancestor of craniates. On the basis of a detailed study, they found the fossil Haikouella "fit these predictions closely" (Mallatt and Chen 2003).
* Evolution predicts that different sets of character data should still give the same phylogenetic trees. This has been confirmed informally myriad times and quantitatively, with different protein sequences, by Penny et al. (1982).
* Insect wings evolved from gills, with an intermediate stage of skimming on the water surface. Since the primitive surface-skimming condition is widespread among stoneflies, J. H. Marden predicted that stoneflies would likely retain other primitive traits, too. This prediction led to the discovery in stoneflies of functional hemocyanin, used for oxygen transport in other arthropods but never before found in insects (Hagner-Holler et al. 2004; Marden 2005).
(From Talkorigins.org, your one-stop shop for rebuttals to the Factory-Extruded Creationist Arguments!)}}
::{{cquote|Plate tectonics was uncertain as recently as the 1960s, but evidence in its favor has become overwhelming:
* Plate motions are measured directly (Davidson et al. 1997).
* The eastern edge of the continental shelves of North and South America fit closely (within 50 km) with the western continental shelves of Africa and Europe (Bishop 1981). The Mid-Atlantic Ridge has the same shape.
* Plant and animal fossil distributions, geological formations, and indications of ancient climate match up in Africa and South America as if the continents once fit together (Davidson et al. 1997).
* When new rocks are formed, they record the earth's current magnetic field, which reverses occasionally. The magnetic field pattern recorded in the sea floor rocks shows bands mirrored across a spreading center (Bishop 1981; Davidson et al. 1997). (See also Magnetic reversals.)
* Paleomagnetic studies show different polar wandering on different continents, indicating that the continents moved relative to one another (Bishop 1981; Davidson et al. 1997).
* Oceanic sediments are young and thin, indicating that sea basins are relatively young (Graham 1981).
* Maps of earthquake locations show plate boundaries and the paths of subducting plates (Davidson et al. 1997; Graham 1981).
* Hot spots leave trails such as volcanic island chains as the plates move over them (Davidson et al. 1997).
(More from talkorigins. Sorry for the unoriginality, but I'm on my lunch break.)}}
::As for ''Expelled''--I'd want a biologist who taught Creationism moved to a non-teaching position for roughly the same reason I'd rather not be operated on by a doctor who rejected modern medicine in favor of the Four Humor theory of treatment.
::Hope this helps you understand where I'm coming from, even it if is all a flimsy tissue of rationalizations over my seething hatred of God and America fnord.
::I'd better go edit something now. Don't want a 90/10 block for <s>disrespect towards my betters</s>unproductive edits, after all. --[[User:Gulik5|Gulik5]] 15:25, 8 April 2008 (EDT)