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::Good. Since they are conservatives, maybe they have actual reasons for their objections - which we could then describe in detail. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 16:05, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
::Good. Since they are conservatives, maybe they have actual reasons for their objections - which we could then describe in detail. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 16:05, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
:::I wrote a lot of that section (but that's also the section which has the highest proportion of stuff other people wrote), so at least most of it isn't polemic, or not intentionally :)
:::There are definitely a lot of reasons that people legitimately don't like the Patriot Act; it's certainly not all just politics. Could I ask how to fix the section? The first paragraph is more general (as it's meant to be -- it's an introduction to the rest of the controversy section) but the next three paragraphs are a lot more specific, and are all cited. The last two paragraphs I did not write, and the first of those last two (confused yet?) has a fact tag that, last time I tried, I could not verify. Really I don't like this paragraph at all, because the first sentence is unverified and the second sentence is kind of silly: "the FBI promises that it didn't do anything wrong, based on its own self evaluation". I'm sure they did ;-)
:::So long story not very short, Ed, I would love to try and make the fixes needed to put that section back in! I'm just not 100% sure what can stay and what needs more work. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:28, 8 April 2008 (EDT)