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::I assume Raggs means the rate at which mutations occur, and that would be relevant if there have only been a few thousand years since the flood. But I came here to say something a little different - surely it cannot be true that "Creationist biologists accept all the biology that an evolutionist accepts" - given that evolution plays such a central part in modern biology, as an underpinning theory and an observed fact. The article almost seems to be saying "Creationist biologists accept all the biology that an evolutionist accepts, ''except for the biology''"! [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 12:59, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
 
::I assume Raggs means the rate at which mutations occur, and that would be relevant if there have only been a few thousand years since the flood. But I came here to say something a little different - surely it cannot be true that "Creationist biologists accept all the biology that an evolutionist accepts" - given that evolution plays such a central part in modern biology, as an underpinning theory and an observed fact. The article almost seems to be saying "Creationist biologists accept all the biology that an evolutionist accepts, ''except for the biology''"! [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 12:59, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
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:::To answer your question on my usertalk (may as well state it here), I've got a zoology degree, have worked in the field of prosimians and am planning on starting a phd soon (hell I hope to become a professor one day, so perhaps I'm not worth listening to ;)).  Also I've discussed this and these topics a fair old bit.  Humblpi has basically got it.  Mutation rates are pretty damn constant, not just in mammals but bacteria as well, the reason they evolve so much faster is their amazingly rapid generation time compared to ours.  In short, if you're dealing with a 4000 year time period, mutation rates must have been through the roof (not only a very tiny population to work with, but also a hell of a lot to diversify to), and somehow avoid negative mutations (which are far more dangerous in small populations than large ones).  YEC would have a lot of problems with biology (all related to evolutionary concepts, but there are a few).  OEC can indeed accept every part of biology unscathed (depending of course on their beliefs).  It just seems like a very short article, containing barely any information, and that which is contained needs to be qualified in many places.[[User:Raggs|Raggs]] 14:01, 9 April 2008 (EDT)
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