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Talk:Falsifiability of Creation (view source)
Revision as of 21:35, April 13, 2008
, 21:35, April 13, 2008→"Best attested figure in human history"
:Yes, it's true. Where did you get the idea that the Bible was the only source? The [[Rome|Roman]] historians [[Seneca]], [[Tacitus]], and [[Pliny the Younger]] all talk about Him, His followers, or both. And don't forget [[Flavius Josephus]], either, and remember that he didn't follow Christ himself; he just reported on those who did.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 16:01, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
:Yes, it's true. Where did you get the idea that the Bible was the only source? The [[Rome|Roman]] historians [[Seneca]], [[Tacitus]], and [[Pliny the Younger]] all talk about Him, His followers, or both. And don't forget [[Flavius Josephus]], either, and remember that he didn't follow Christ himself; he just reported on those who did.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 16:01, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
::Terry, you should be careful about citing Flavius Josephus. Although he does say that Jesus ''existed'', and led the Jews in rebellion, the part of the document that describes Jesus as the messiah has been proven to be a later addition, forged by medieval Monks. That's the Testimoniam Flavianum, and it's definitely unreliable.-[[User:Madison|Madison]] 16:37, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
::Terry, you should be careful about citing Flavius Josephus. Although he does say that Jesus ''existed'', and led the Jews in rebellion, the part of the document that describes Jesus as the messiah has been proven to be a later addition, forged by medieval Monks. That's the Testimoniam Flavianum, and it's definitely unreliable.-[[User:Madison|Madison]] 16:37, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
:::Interesting Terry, thanks for the response. But even if what you say is true, isn't it likely that more modern internationally famous figures are actually more attested, simply because of greater population, more people in the media, more media, etc? Even with all the authors and commentators you refer to, I'd be hard pushed to think he was more written about, quoted, listened to, reported upon, commented upon than a modern US President? I'm not decrying Him, I'm simply saying that modernity has surely brought more 'attesting' than could have been possible in history? I'll happily stand down if we can find some evidence otherwise, but it'll make for interesting research - if it's even provable. [[User:Billabong|Billabong]] 17:35, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
==six twenty-four-hour days==
==six twenty-four-hour days==
I see that this article specifically talks about six 24 hour days. You will be aware that there are other interpretations which count the "days" as being a thousand years long or longer. Would it be appropriate for me to add something bout this? I understand that we're intended to edit rather than talk, but I wouldn't want to start off with a bad edit or simply have my entry reversed. thank you.[[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 16:33, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
I see that this article specifically talks about six 24 hour days. You will be aware that there are other interpretations which count the "days" as being a thousand years long or longer. Would it be appropriate for me to add something bout this? I understand that we're intended to edit rather than talk, but I wouldn't want to start off with a bad edit or simply have my entry reversed. thank you.[[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 16:33, 13 April 2008 (EDT)