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Sin in the heavens, but not equivalent to heavens.
:: Genesis records the sun being created on day 4 (and light being created ''after'' verse 1). So where do you get the idea that heaven includes the sun? The "unproductive activity" commandment refers to 90% talk and 10% editing. You are nowhere close to that. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 17:48, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
:: Genesis records the sun being created on day 4 (and light being created ''after'' verse 1). So where do you get the idea that heaven includes the sun? The "unproductive activity" commandment refers to 90% talk and 10% editing. You are nowhere close to that. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 17:48, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
:::But the sun is in the Heaven - ie the sky. It is created in Day One. Isn't that obvious? (I must admit that I have a rather literal interpretation though - and I acknowledge that more liberal interpretations are poissible.) As an aside I would like to thank you for confirming my edit position. Are the statistics held somewhere so that I may reference them and Confirm my Position? I consider it most important that one should Follow the Rules.[[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 12:23, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
:::But the sun is in the Heaven - ie the sky. It is created in Day One. Isn't that obvious? (I must admit that I have a rather literal interpretation though - and I acknowledge that more liberal interpretations are poissible.) As an aside I would like to thank you for confirming my edit position. Are the statistics held somewhere so that I may reference them and Confirm my Position? I consider it most important that one should Follow the Rules.[[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 12:23, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
:::: The sun is in the heavens ''now'', but that doesn't mean that when the Bible says that the heavens were created that everything ''in'' the heavens were created at the same time, and Genesis specifically says that the sun was created on day 4. Isn't ''that'' obvious? And literal? As for your edit statistics, see the Personal edit counter link in the welcome box on your talk page. But keep in mind that the "90/10" rule is not a precise 90%/10% figure, but a commandment against "unproductive activity", with the 90/10 split being a guide to what that might be. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:55, 19 April 2008 (EDT)