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::::Yes, but Behe, the most well known proponent of ID, is certainly a supporter of, for example, Common Descent. He is one of the people mentioned (I believe) in the film.  Presumably you would agree with me that he is wrong? And as wrong as the evolutionists?[[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 15:11, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 
::::Yes, but Behe, the most well known proponent of ID, is certainly a supporter of, for example, Common Descent. He is one of the people mentioned (I believe) in the film.  Presumably you would agree with me that he is wrong? And as wrong as the evolutionists?[[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 15:11, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::Behe is probably the most famous ID proponent in modern times and the man most responsible for seeing Intelligent Design brought to the forefront.  That being said, his personal views beyond the idea that there is a design have no importance in Intelligent Design itself. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 15:19, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::Behe is probably the most famous ID proponent in modern times and the man most responsible for seeing Intelligent Design brought to the forefront.  That being said, his personal views beyond the idea that there is a design have no importance in Intelligent Design itself. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 15:19, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
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::::::OK Your Mr Poor challenged me to find a Christian and or creationist source which criticized ID.  Answers in Genesis is probably the most respected creationist source on the web.  I have provided a couple of illustrative quotes which show their point of view. (There are many others that could be found, click the links and read the articles.)  If ID only said that there is evidence of design then I would have no problem with it.  But it says a lot more than that.  It says long timescales and it says common descent.  At least that is what the scientific version says. And, as far as I can tell, that is the version this film is about.  The "scientific" one.[[User:Tolerance|Tolerance]] 15:41, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
    
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