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: You speak as though Wikipedia has only just revealed their bias!  Yet you and I both know that this is nothing new for them.  Thanks for your edits.  Although I had a few minor quibbles (and have made changes accordingly), your edits have improved the article.  I only wish I could see the movie for myself to better judge the accuracy of the article.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:49, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
 
: You speak as though Wikipedia has only just revealed their bias!  Yet you and I both know that this is nothing new for them.  Thanks for your edits.  Although I had a few minor quibbles (and have made changes accordingly), your edits have improved the article.  I only wish I could see the movie for myself to better judge the accuracy of the article.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:49, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:I would think eliminating advocacy could be served by removing the following things:
 
:I would think eliminating advocacy could be served by removing the following things:
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*The "Find a Theatre Near You" box, which is outright advocacy.
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:*The "Find a Theatre Near You" box, which is outright advocacy.
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*The politicized reception sections, which classify all negative criticism as liberal.
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:*The politicized reception sections, which classify all negative criticism as liberal.
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*The Roebuck quote, which is unencyclopedic and does not touch on the actual movie at all.
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:*The Roebuck quote, which is unencyclopedic and does not touch on the actual movie at all.
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*Large sections of the intro, which abandon the movie and simply argue ID.--[[User:TomMoore|TomMoore]] 13:54, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
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:*Large sections of the intro, which abandon the movie and simply argue ID.--[[User:TomMoore|TomMoore]] 13:54, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
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:: I've made some changes following your comments.
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:: The "Find a theatre" box is not advocacy, except ''perhaps'' to advocates ''seeing'' the movie.  I had previously removed it from the main body of the text on the grounds of being unencyclopedic, which I think is a reasonable compromise.
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:: I've changed the headings of the reception/review sections, but not removed the sections as you suggest: I couldn't see the point in removing them.  This change actually solved a problem that I'd previously noticed, that Carl Wieland's comments were, as far as I know, not actually a ''review'', he having not seen the movie, I would think.
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:: I've removed the Roebuck quote on the grounds that it is about ID, not about the movie.
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:: From a quick look, I can't see "large sections of the intro" arguing ID.
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:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:19, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
    
== Now wait just one minute ==
 
== Now wait just one minute ==
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