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:: Further, the problem with the aliens explanation is that it simply removes the question one step:  who created the aliens?  Claiming that God is the creator doesn't have this problem, because there's no need to ask who created an uncreated Being.
 
:: Further, the problem with the aliens explanation is that it simply removes the question one step:  who created the aliens?  Claiming that God is the creator doesn't have this problem, because there's no need to ask who created an uncreated Being.
 
:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:51, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
 
:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:51, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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::: You're honestly telling me that no [[Native Americans]] believe in Wiskadejak?
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::: Furthermore, perhaps you should inform me about what these arguments are, instead of simply telling me that I don't understand them.
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::: You're right, PJR, there's no need to ask who created something that doesn't exist.
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::: And finally, re: Motive. The goal of science is not to prove atheism right, but the goal of ID proponents is to prove ID right by circumventing the scientific method by starting with a conclusion. If you seriously don't think that's how it's happening, you're clueless. [[User:IndianaJ|IndianaJ]] 12:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)
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