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:::::::: The Wikipedia list is all ages, including many under 22 years old and too young to develop breast cancer yet.  The Wikipedia list also includes non-touring singers who would have no reason to disclose breast cancer.  And even with that, the list is nowhere near the 5000 you implied.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:56, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::::: The Wikipedia list is all ages, including many under 22 years old and too young to develop breast cancer yet.  The Wikipedia list also includes non-touring singers who would have no reason to disclose breast cancer.  And even with that, the list is nowhere near the 5000 you implied.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:56, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

::::::::: I agree that I do not have the age breakdown of that list - and though the info is there, I simply don't have enough free time to do that.  So I will freely grant that until someone does that research, we don't exactly know the population size.  But let's guess that it's 200 out of the near 500 we see listed - that's not unreasonable.  But this is a list of mostly US and UK singers.  Where are the comparable lists of Japanese, Croatian and Italian singers, who also no doubt have a tendency to succumb to [[Hollywood Values]]?  And that's just rock and pop singers - we haven't covered rappers, actresses or TV 'people' (I'm guessing chat show hosts, weather girls, news readers, etc might be just as susceptible to [[Hollywood Values]]?.  IMDB lists well over half a million actresses - but again, only a portion of those will be in the right age range.  But a very large number will be, as the age range is the functioning age range for most actresses.  So while I'm openly admitting all these flaws in my own data, can you at least admit that your guess of 50 is very likely to be orders of magnitude off?  That the final numbers could easily be in the thousands or even tens of thousands internationally?  As you asked me - yes or no?  Is that possible?  [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 22:01, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

::::::::: I agree that I do not have the age breakdown of that list - and though the info is there, I simply don't have enough free time to do that.  So I will freely grant that until someone does that research, we don't exactly know the population size.  But let's guess that it's 200 out of the near 500 we see listed - that's not unreasonable.  But this is a list of mostly US and UK singers.  Where are the comparable lists of Japanese, Croatian and Italian singers, who also no doubt have a tendency to succumb to [[Hollywood Values]]?  How do we find out about the number of 'young hopefuls' in millions of towns around the world, rehearsing with a band in a garage somewhere, but not famous enough to be listed on Wikipedia, but very likely 'partying' and in the right age range?  And that's just rock and pop singers - we haven't covered rappers, actresses or TV 'people' (I'm guessing chat show hosts, weather girls, news readers, etc might be just as susceptible to [[Hollywood Values]]?.  IMDB lists well over half a million actresses - but again, only a portion of those will be in the right age range.  But a very large number will be, as the age range is the functioning age range for most actresses.  So while I'm openly admitting all these flaws in my own data, can you at least admit that your guess of 50 is very likely to be orders of magnitude off?  That the final numbers could easily be in the thousands or even tens of thousands internationally?  As you asked me - yes or no?  Is that possible?  [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 22:01, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

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