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:::Sorry, but you miss a vital element in the [[Hippocratic Oath]]: ''Never bring harm upon anyone.'' In latin, ''primum non nocere''. First of all, do no harm. By that standard, a physician who does ''anything'' to a patient without first verifying that that thing is safe is behaving in an irresponsible manner. But modern [[medicine]] has forgotten that lesson and in that manner has gone completely off the rails. And Gardasil is a prime example.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 14:00, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
:::Sorry, but you miss a vital element in the [[Hippocratic Oath]]: ''Never bring harm upon anyone.'' In latin, ''primum non nocere''. First of all, do no harm. By that standard, a physician who does ''anything'' to a patient without first verifying that that thing is safe is behaving in an irresponsible manner. But modern [[medicine]] has forgotten that lesson and in that manner has gone completely off the rails. And Gardasil is a prime example.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 14:00, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
::::This detracts from the point that I haven't seen what the "link" is - i.e. the cited article is a secondary source and therefore not strong enough to justify the statement in this article regarding vaccines.
::::The Oath also mentions not cutting out stones as well.
::::In all seriousness, it is simply impossible to verify the safety of any drugs completely before phase IV clinical trials - meaning after the drugs has been marketed. Unless you test the drug on every single person on earth and obtain a reading on it, no drug is "safe". Patient care is always riddled with uncertainty - and if physicians waits until he's 100% all the time, they'd actually do more harm to patients by their inaction. That's when professional judgment and experience comes in.
::::And to bring this back to our original discussion about _this_ article - all drugs have adverse reactions. Stating that Gardasil "has now been linked to a number of sudden deaths reported within days of its administration" from a news article (as opposed to a medical journal) is just a cheap, baseless way of attacking vaccines. [[User:ATang|ATang]] 15:08, 23 May 2008 (EDT)