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:::Let me add, as an after thought, all accounts I read all over the web dismiss this all as a "scandal" of a bunch of greedy arms dealers and other assorted low-lifes which either includes Reagan, or Reagan gave his assent to.  That POV has been explicitely stated eleswhere.  So what we are examining is the motives for Reagan's giving assent to this matter.  And beginning with a conclusory premise, that (a) Reagan's just another greedy corrupt Republican (b) this is just more evidence of the currupt aims, motives, and duplicity of Republicans in power and why you can't trust them, will fail.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:20, 17 March 2007 (EDT)
 
:::Let me add, as an after thought, all accounts I read all over the web dismiss this all as a "scandal" of a bunch of greedy arms dealers and other assorted low-lifes which either includes Reagan, or Reagan gave his assent to.  That POV has been explicitely stated eleswhere.  So what we are examining is the motives for Reagan's giving assent to this matter.  And beginning with a conclusory premise, that (a) Reagan's just another greedy corrupt Republican (b) this is just more evidence of the currupt aims, motives, and duplicity of Republicans in power and why you can't trust them, will fail.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:20, 17 March 2007 (EDT)
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==Iraq==
    
'''Comment on this inclusion''':''although the U.S. government under Reagan gave direct support to Iraq during the war. President Ronald Reagan stated that the United States "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran", and that the United States "would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran.");''  
 
'''Comment on this inclusion''':''although the U.S. government under Reagan gave direct support to Iraq during the war. President Ronald Reagan stated that the United States "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran", and that the United States "would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran.");''  
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:Being old enough to remember this time really good but too old to remember exactly where I heard this: The CIA, in  shipments of Iran's weapons, would include "faulty" munitions such as hand grenades that would explode as soon as the handle was released, killing the thrower. Not all, but like 15-20% were "defective". I'll see if I can find a source.
 
:Being old enough to remember this time really good but too old to remember exactly where I heard this: The CIA, in  shipments of Iran's weapons, would include "faulty" munitions such as hand grenades that would explode as soon as the handle was released, killing the thrower. Not all, but like 15-20% were "defective". I'll see if I can find a source.
 
::''primea facia'' this may be faulty; you will recall CIA was not involved in Iran/Contra; and using Israel & private arms dealers is what the matter was all about.  Please, do not come here with warrantless, unqualified speculation.  Get legitimate source documents first, then bring it to our attention.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:46, 17 March 2007 (EDT)
 
::''primea facia'' this may be faulty; you will recall CIA was not involved in Iran/Contra; and using Israel & private arms dealers is what the matter was all about.  Please, do not come here with warrantless, unqualified speculation.  Get legitimate source documents first, then bring it to our attention.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 11:46, 17 March 2007 (EDT)
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*Reagan said, '''''"could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran..."'''''
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This is the same problem that confronts President Bush today, i.e. allowing Iran to gain ascendancy over the majority Shia in Iraq, and the region.  I'm sorry if this conflicts with journalists and scandalmongers aims to sell newspapers to paint Reagan in bed with the fascist Ba'athists, but this is not a propaganda vehicle, and we are here to write factual biography of Mr. Reagan.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:26, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
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